From:   rob hollander <>
Sent time:   Thursday, November 03, 2011 9:29:24 AM
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] Fwd: Oakland police's open letter

Alligator tears. Quan recognized her mistake in cracking down. Now she's shifted. It's for her now to crack down on her police employees and get them in line with her new program.

The only response should be: Quan, tell your police to respect the occupation and your policies. They want to know the clear message? That's the clear message, that's the word from leadership, in case they didn't get it the first time. She should be encouraged to state that mistakes have been made, that she takes responsibility for those mistakes, and it's her responsibility to make sure that those mistakes never happen again.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:43 AM, Doug Singsen <> wrote:
That's part of it, but at the same time they're claiming to be part of the 99%, which is designed to make it seem like they're on the same side as the protesters. I think this letter is first and foremost about them trying to take some of the heat off of themselves and push it onto Quan. They're venting at the fact that Quan sent them out there to crack heads and then left them hanging out on a limb when it went bad. They either want to be sent in to crack heads (probably their preference) and shut it down permanently or not to be sent in at all. Either way, they want a position they can stick to, not flip-flopping around and putting them in a conflicted position. The part that's a ploy is the claim that they're on the same side as the protesters.

On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 12:15 AM, rob hollander <> wrote:
A ploy?? It's a clear call for Quan to crack down on the occupiers: "we need real leaders NOW who will step up and lead – not send mixed messages." The "mixed message" was Quan's allowing the protesters back, along with city employees. The police want the city employees out so they can crack heads. What is not clear about this disgusting, anti-American, anti-mayor statement? The employees of the mayor -- as employees -- telling her how to run her city! If they were in the armed forces they'd be tried and discharged. F$%k them.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Doug Singsen <> wrote:
Individual police officers may be reformable, but the police force as an institution is not, and no one who is currently a police officer can be entirely trustworthy from our perspective because their job is to repress us.

This letter does show that the authorities are highly disoriented, however, which is a good thing. Every time they try to squash us and fail, it stuns them a little and they get confused.

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:38 PM, <> wrote:
I have to agree with Doug that it is a ploy, but it is still wild that they put it out.   I like how they call themselves the 99%.
On 11/02/11, Doug Singsen<> wrote:
Remember, these are the same people who shot Oscar Grant in the back and terrorize the Black community of Oakland on a daily basis. This is a police force known and hated for its routine harrassment and brutality. This letter is as much a political ploy as Quan's statement that she now "supports" the protesters. They are just running for cover because they are under fire. They do not deserve our sympathy or support.


On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:19 PM, gail zawacki <> wrote:
Is this for real???  Powerful stuff!

On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 10:07 PM, Liliana Gomez <> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Patricia Rios <>
Date: Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:52 PM
Subject: Oakland police's open letter


An Open Letter to the Citizens of Oakland from the

Oakland Police Officers’ Association

We represent the 645 police officers who work hard every day to protect the citizens of Oakland. We, too, are the 99% fighting for better working conditions, fair treatment and the ability to provide a living for our children and families. We are severely understaffed with many City beats remaining unprotected by police during the day and evening hours.

As your police officers, we are confused.

On Tuesday, October 25th, we were ordered by Mayor Quan to clear out the encampments at Frank Ogawa Plaza and to keep protesters out of the Plaza. We performed the job that the Mayor’s Administration asked us to do, being fully aware that past protests in Oakland have resulted in rioting, violence and destruction of property.

Then, on Wednesday, October 26th, the Mayor allowed protesters back in – to camp out at the very place they were evacuated from the day before.

To add to the confusion, the Administration issued a memo on Friday, October 28th to all City workers in support of the "Stop Work" strike scheduled for Wednesday, giving all employees, except for police officers, permission to take the day off.

That’s hundreds of City workers encouraged to take off work to participate in the protest against "the establishment." But aren’t the Mayor and her Administration part of the establishment they are paying City employees to protest? Is it the City’s intention to have City employees on both sides of a skirmish line?

It is all very confusing to us.

Meanwhile, a message has been sent to all police officers: Everyone, including those who have the day off, must show up for work on Wednesday. This is also being paid for by Oakland taxpayers. Last week’s events alone cost Oakland taxpayers over $1 million.

The Mayor and her Administration are beefing up police presence for Wednesday’s work strike they are encouraging and even "staffing," spending hundreds of thousands of taxpayer dollars for additional police presence – at a time when the Mayor is also asking Oakland residents to vote on an $80 parcel tax to bail out the City’s failing finances.

All of these mixed messages are confusing.

We love Oakland and just want to do our jobs to protect Oakland residents. We respectfully ask the citizens of Oakland to join us in demanding that our City officials, including Mayor Quan, make sound decisions and take responsibility for these decisions. Oakland is struggling – we need real leaders NOW who will step up and lead – not send mixed messages. Thank you for listening.

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Rob Hollander
Lower East Side Residents for Responsible Development
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NYC, 10009

Rob Hollander
Lower East Side Residents for Responsible Development
622 E 11, #10
NYC, 10009