From:   shaista husain <>
Sent time:   Sunday, November 06, 2011 7:34:17 AM
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] #OccupyChristmas!

Folks, believing the myths of Santa Claus is not innocuous. Perhaps,

this myth is not as ignorant or dangerous as believing in the myth of

Christopher Columbus discovering America, but still, to perpetuate the

myth of Santa in a capitalist culture is to give in to the worse

advertisements every created and perpetuated. Perhaps there is a way

to recuperate poor ole Santa to our side against consumerism gone

wild...--(Dave Chappelle Here is another

funny video clip from the film Divine Intervention by Palestinian

Filmmaker Elia Suleiman, and this takes place in Nazareth...


Maybe we shouldn't destroy poor Santa, maybe we can turn him into

Robin Hood or use the mythology against consumerism etc. Peace and

respect all religions even children's fantasies...

Eid Mubarak folks! and Happy Hannukah and Happy Kwanzaa!


On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 8:01 AM, <> wrote:

> I agree that messing with christmass is dangerous, although I think it is

> possible to make fun of the most crass commercialism and at the same time

> celebrate generosity.



> On 11/06/11, gail zawacki<> wrote:

> Don't fuck with Santa.  Instead reframe the holiday season to be one of

> caring for the less fortunate, away from unsustainable greedy consumerism

> and towards giving gifts of peace, love, service and charity.  You could

> turn this to quite an advantage without bludgeoning a family tradition - as

> in, for many families, the only time they all get together under the same

> roof - into a pulp.


> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 12:25 AM, <> wrote:


>> Santa Claus has roots in an anti capitalist populist tradtion he was based

>> on the image of a robber barron but this one was supposed to give for free

>> instead of exploit. Not saying this says any thing about chirstmas today

>> just a bit of history


>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: Alexandre Machado De Sant'Anna Carvalho <>

>> To: september17 <>

>> Sent: Sat, Nov 5, 2011 9:24 pm

>> Subject: [september17discuss] #OccupyChristmas!


>> To all Occupations and Working Groups (yes i'm funny tonight):


>> Please spread this idea about this mass culture subversion to happen

>> on December 25th: as live human beings filled with creative potency, subvert

>> the mass culture of alienation produced by the capitalist machine. Yes,

>> people! Denounce Santa Claus as a tool of the state, spread the

>> insurrectionist pulse against oppresion all over the #occupynetwork. We are

>> a network that stings. Fuck oppression.



>> As we #occupied (and liberated) Halloween here in NYC, start your own

>> automous deterritorialization of #Christmas! If you are an anarchist, you

>> probably want to write operation #fuckchristmas. If you are a foodie,

>> operation #eatchristmas. And so forth. Bleh. You get it.


>> Please invite and embrace the cause! For cultural upheavel action, hurray!



>> Alê

>> --


>> Alexandre M.S. Carvalho, M.D., MPH

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