From:   cseeman <cseeman@optonline.net>
Sent time:   Friday, November 11, 2011 9:06:33 AM
To:   Global Revolution Media <globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com>
Subject:   [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: Livestream vs Wirecast vs Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder
 

1pm is good.

Is it 339 Lafayette?

Floor number?

 

Wirecast can send simultaneous streams so not just any CDN but several

at the same time.

So we could have primary and secondary streaming running on Livestream

and Ustream and if Livestream goes down just post link in the chat to

Ustream (Livestream will love that won't they? ;)

That's assuming you have the upstream bandwidth of course. Also since

you can have two Wirecast systems, if one goes down you can have the

backup running.

 

Assuming GlobalRevolution wants to switch to various local streams,

Wirecast does that with Desktop Presenter (Tricaster only has two

inputs from external computers unless they've changed that).

 

On Nov 11, 7:50 am, Melissa Ulto <multost...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Saturday works for me! Lets do it - how is 1 pm?  or noon?

>

> The tricaster is limited but its studio use only as i see it. not

> mobile. we can mix both remote wirecast streams and studio streams -

> Tricaster can send signal to any system - i've used it with

> Livestream, Ustream, and a few others. the mobile media unit should be

> either entirely camera broadcast based (terradecks) or with a laptop

> assist on site, using whatever app best works to stream.

>

> the best app has to:

>

> - be CPU/mem light on load

> - easy to use - relatively, considering most users should be somewhat

> computer savvy

> - have a reliable secondary option - escalation path - livestream

> fails, then wirecast, then FMLE...etc.

>

> :) m.

>

> On Nov 10, 10:53 pm, cseeman <csee...@optonline.net> wrote:

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> > Current version of Wirecast is 4.1.2. It's my software of choice. I

> > don't have audio issues. Audio can be complex to setup because it is

> > one of the view that allows multiple simultaneous audio sources which

> > can be composited (as well as video of course).

>

> > BTW Tricaster has some serious limitations. Great if you have all HD-

> > SDI on the high end or all composite BNC on the low end but otherwise

> > you may be spending serious money on adaptors Even the famous Leo

> > Laporte ends up taking the output of it to MacMinis to encode with

> > Adobe FMLE because Tricaster's encoder is limited. Tricaster really

> > doesn't have anything like Desktop Presenter (which can be finicky

> > when first setting it up) which can send Video and Audio over LAN from

> > every computer on that LAN. That gives you a good number of pseudo

> > camera inputs. The LAN has to be wired gigabit though because it needs

> > lots of bandwidth. I've also used Desktop Presenter and Skype Group

> > Video to have live virtual panel discussions. Basically with enough

> > computing power Wirecast could handle more total inputs than

> > Tricaster.

>

> > Wirecast can handle HDMI with Blackmagic Intensity Pro cards. It can

> > handle Teradek Cube in as a live camera using WiFi mode (camera needs

> > to be no more than a couple hundred feet away though) but at least

> > they're not tethered to the laptop. It has to be Wirecast Pro version

> > though. It can also receive video from LiveU for long distance camera

> > work (needs to be on Windows Server though). Also has to be Pro

> > version. It can also handle certain IP cameras (again Pro version). If

> > you have Final Cut Pro installed it can record to hard drive in Apple

> > ProRes so you can have a high quality near uncompressed master for

> > editing. BTW Wirecast license allows you to run two copies and they

> > can be either Mac or Windows (you can run one on each if you'd like).

> > Wirecast can also stream to multiple CDNs at the same time. Some

> > people send to Livestream, Ustream, JustinTV (and use different

> > settings for each) at the same time with Wirecast.

>

> > If you'd like, I can come down Saturday to Lafayette and everything a

> > thorough look over, troubleshoot, and do a training.

> > Let me know ASAP.

>

> > If you're looking for something other than Livestream that's

> > professional white label BitGravity might be one possibility. I know

> > they have "sponsored" shows for some people.

>

> > cseeman

>

> > On Nov 10, 8:04 pm, Melissa Ulto <multost...@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> > > hi peeps

>

> > > so the time has come to review some of our options in streaming.

> > > ideally, we should be using a white label service we can brand and

> > > control. but that takes $$$.

>

> > > in the meantime:

>

> > > - tonight for a client i tried to stream using Procaster 20.2 - what a

> > > nightmare - grabs all system resources and lists usage at 100% and

> > > leads to total stream fail. i'm testing later which version to roll

> > > back to successfully and will let you know. its a known issue in the

> > > livestream forums. ugh...

>

> > > - i've also used wirecast - which version Vlad are we shooting to use?

> > > v3.x is pretty stable but 4.x is nicer. i'm not sure if there are

> > > newer versions. the audio issues, however, ugh...

>

> > > - a new player - Adobe Flash Media Live Encoder - works with

> > > livestream accounts - lets test this - supposedly CPU/mem lite

>

> > > eventually, for the studio, i see a Tricaster 850 and HDMI cameras -

> > > but that's down the road. we should see if we can find a livestream

> > > white label service that might donate or give a discount. livestream

> > > is so wonky lately and frustrating to work with.

>

> > > what other options - Ustream, Justin.tv, Blip.tv? Boinxtv? also some

> > > other services that aren't big brands...suggestions?

>

> > > lets actively research a longer term solution.

>

> > > :) m.

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