Sent time:   Sunday, November 13, 2011 2:01:43 PM
Subject:   [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Fw: Your thoughts on Cairo
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 21:00:10 +0000
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Subject: Your thoughts on Cairo

Do u think by sending our media ppl we could monitor/expose this potential issue, that, " many of
us see it�its�election is just a means of legitimating the ruling
junta�s seizure of the revolutionary process."? See below

2. My project of the day/thought is instructional videos about spokes+ga+dir. dem. because the former consensus video on utube isn't precise enough for ppl to know what needs consensus! There must be as much time given for autonomous action, and empowerment, but people are proposing things that are really calls for networking, and then expect consensus to mean something at a disjunctured point in time. Anyone else agree/want to work on spokes/ga/dir dem videos all day all week? The people demand tools for intimacy knowledge and this is the root, radical.

3. Did anyone videotape the training at 16 beaver yesterday?

Thank you all, there like 150ppl subscribed to this list right?


P.s. Anyone for dancing at sway tonight? Its smiths/newwave/good shtuff night.

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From: Babak K <>
Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2011 15:01:41 -0500
To: <>
Subject: [OWS Educ] Message from Cairo Comrades about proposal of sending 20 OWS people there

This is a message from activists in Cairo, who (in my opinion) are
rightfully concerned to learn that the OWS GA passed a proposal to designate
$20,000 in funds for members of OWS to travel to Egypt to monitor elections�
that are the military junta's way of coopting their popular democracy.�


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To our kindred occupiers in Zuccotti park,

When we called out to you, requesting you join us on 12 November in
defending our revolution�and in our campaign against the military
trial of civilians in Egypt, your solidarity�pictures from�marches,
videos, and statements of support�added to our strength.

However, we recently received news that your General Assembly passed a
proposal authorizing�$29,000 dollars to send twenty of your number to
Egypt as election monitors. Truth be told, the�news rather shocked us;
we spent the better part of the day simply trying to figure out who
could�have asked for such assistance on our behalf.

We have some concerns with the idea, and we wanted to join your conversation.

It seems to us that you have taken to the streets and occupied your
parks and cities out of a�dissatisfaction with the false promises of
the game of electoral politics, and so did our comrades in�Spain,
Greece and Britain. Regardless of how one stands on the efficacy of
elections or elected�representatives, the Occupy movement seems
outside the scope this; your choice to occupy is, if�nothing else,
bigger than any election. Why then, should our elections be any cause
for�celebration, when even in the best of all possible worlds they
will be just another supposedly��representative� body ruling in the
interest of the 1% over the remaining 99% of us? This new�Egyptian
parliament will have effectively no powers whatsoever, and�as many of
us see it�its�election is just a means of legitimating the ruling
junta�s seizure of the revolutionary process. Is this�something you
wish to monitor?

We have, all of us around the world, been learning new ways to
represent ourselves, to speak, to�live our politics directly and
immediately, and in Egypt we did not set out to the streets in
revolution simply to gain a parliament. Our struggle�which we think we
share with you�is greater�and grander than a neatly functioning
parliamentary democracy; we demanded the fall of the�regime, we
demanded dignity, freedom and social justice, and we are still
fighting for these goals.�We do not see elections of a puppet
parliament as the means to achieve them.

But even though the idea of election monitoring doesn�t really do it
for us, we want your solidarity,�we want your support and your visits.
We want to know you, talk with you, learn one another�s�lessons,
compare strategies and share plans for the future. We think that
activists or as people�committed to serious change in the systems we
live in, there is so much more that we can do�together than
legitimizing electoral processes (leave that boring job to the Carter
Foundation)�that seem so impoverished next to the new forms of
democracy and social life we are building. It�should be neither our
job nor our desire to play the game of elections; we are occupying and
we�should build our spaces and our networks because they themselves
are the basis on which we will�build the new. Let us deepen our lines
of communication and process and discover out what�these new ways of
working together and supporting one another could be.

Any time you do want to come over, we�ve got plenty of comfy couches
available. It won�t be�fancy, but it will be fun.

Yours, as always, in solidarity,

Comrades from Cairo
13 November, 2011

P.S. We finally got an email address:�