From:   Winter Siroco <wintersiroco@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Sunday, November 13, 2011 3:32:08 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Re: Fwd: URGENT: Communique from Cairo
 

I second the proposal of LaurenD. It would be wise to reconsider given the information at hand. 
Cesar

On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 4:27 PM, LaurenD <laurendapfraiz@gmail.com> wrote:
Agreed. I understand that assisting with the monitoring of the
elections was intended to be a symbolic action of solidarity, but
after reading this message from Cairo we should urgently reconsider
this action.


On Nov 13, 1:10 pm, Leah Hunt-Hendrix <lh...@princeton.edu> wrote:
> I just want to voice my agreement.  A march on the consulate to "defend the
> revolution" is what Egyptian activists originally put out a call for.  It
> sounds like the requests for the delegation came from more mainstream, US
> backed organizations rather than from the April 6 activists with whom I
> think we, as OWS, want to be aligned.  I think this is a good chance for us
> to slow down a bit, and think about how we might do a bit more due
> diligence around our solidarity work.  Obviously there's no monolithic
> group of "Egyptians," so it's important that we take the time to build some
> actual relationships with activists there and make sure that our
> expressions of solidarity really match up to what feels helpful and
> supportive to them.
> I really applaud everyone who has put work into the delegation proposal,
> and I know everyone has had the best of intentions.  But I agree that
> sending a delegation isn't an act of solidarity if it's not what Egyptian
> activists on the front lines are wanting from us.  I would support a
> withdrawal of the proposal.
> Thanks to you all,
> Leah
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Doug Singsen <dougsing...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >  Whatever the value of sending people to Egypt, what definitely would be
> > useful would be to organize a protest and march at the Egyptian consulate
> > and the US consulate to the UN demanding that Egypt respect the rights of
> > protesters. I believe the POC group is discussing doing this, but hasn't
> > actually made any plans or put out a call yet. However, this is something
> > that OWS as a whole should support. OWS probably wouldn't exist without the
> > Egyptian Revolution, and the success or defeat of the ongoing revolution in
> > Egypt will have a huge impact on whether and how the movement continues to
> > grow internationally and in the US. We need to do whatever we can here to
> > defend and support the revolution. The actual call for support from Egypt
> > is pasted below, and targeting consulates and the US government are listed
> > as their first two suggestions.
>
> > --------------
>
> > AFTER THREE decades of living under a dictatorship, Egyptians started a
> > revolution demanding bread, freedom and social justice. After a nearly
> > utopian occupation of Tahrir Square lasting 18 days, we rid ourselves of
> > Mubarak and began the second, harder task of removing his apparatuses of
> > power. Mubarak is gone, but the military regime lives on.
>
> > So the revolution continues--building pressure, taking to the streets and
> > claiming the right to control our lives and livelihoods against systems of
> > repression that abused us for years. But now, seemingly so soon after its
> > beginnings, the revolution is under attack. We write this letter to tell
> > you about what we are seeing, how we mean to stand against this crackdown,
> > and to call for your solidarity with us.
>
> > The 25th and 28th of January, the 11th of February: you saw these days,
> > lived these days with us on television. But we have battled through the
> > 25th of February, the 9th of March, the 9th of April, the 15th of May, the
> > 28th of June, the 23rd of July, the 1st of August, the 9th of September,
> > the 9th of October.
>
> > Again and again, the Army and the police have attacked us, beaten us,
> > arrested us, killed us. And we have resisted, we have continued; some of
> > these days, we lost, others we won, but never without cost. Over a thousand
> > gave their lives to remove Mubarak. Many more have joined them in death
> > since.
>
> > We go on so that their deaths will not be in vain. Names like Ali Maher (a
> > 15-year-old demonstrator killed by the Army in Tahrir, 9th of April), Atef
> > Yehia (shot in the head by security forces in a protest in solidarity with
> > Palestine, 15th of May), Mina Danial (shot by the Army in a protest in
> > front of Maspero, 9th of October). Mina Daniel, in death, suffers the
> > perverse indignity of being on the military prosecutor's list of the
> > accused.
>
> > Moreover, since the military junta took power, at least 12,000 of us<http://www.hrw.org/news/2011/09/10/egypt-retry-or-free-12000-after-un...>have been tried
> > by military courts<http://en.nomiltrials.com/2011/10/egypt-end-military-trials-for-civil...>,
> > unable to call witnesses and with limited access to lawyers. Minors are
> > serving in adult prisons, death sentences have been handed down, torture
> > runs rampant. Women demonstrators have been subjected to sexual assault in
> > the form of "virginity tests" by the Army.
>
> > On October 9, the Army massacred 28 of us at Maspero<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mh5F0ot_p3s>;
> > they ran us over with tanks and shot us down in the street<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbUInFMZLNg>while manipulating state media to try and incite sectarian violence. The
> > story has been censored. The military is investigating itself. They are
> > systematically targeting those of us who speak out. This Sunday, our
> > comrade and blogger Alaa Abd El Fattah<http://en.nomiltrials.com/2011/10/statement-of-solidarity-with-alaa-a...>was imprisoned on trumped-up charges. He spends another night in an unlit
> > cell tonight.
>
> > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
>
> > ALL THIS from the military that supposedly will ensure a transition to
> > democracy, that claimed to defend the revolution, and seemingly convinced
> > many within Egypt and internationally that it was doing so. The official
> > line has been one of ensuring "stability," with empty assurances that the
> > Army is only creating a proper environment for the upcoming elections.
>
> > But even once a new parliament is elected, we will still live under a
> > junta that holds legislative, executive and judicial authority, with no
> > guarantee that this will end. Those who challenge this scheme are harassed,
> > arrested and tortured; military trials of civilians are the primary tool of
> > this repression. The prisons are full of casualties of this "transition."
>
> > We now refuse to cooperate with military trials and prosecutions. We will
> > not hand ourselves in, we will not submit ourselves to questioning. If they
> > want us, they can take us from our homes and workplaces.
>
> > Nine months into our new military repression, we are still fighting for
> > our revolution. We are marching, occupying, striking, shutting things down.
> > And you, too, are marching, occupying, striking, shutting things down. We
> > know from the outpouring of support we received in January that the world
> > was watching us closely and even inspired by our revolution. We felt closer
> > to you than ever before.
>
> > And now, it's your turn to inspire us as we watch the struggles of your
> > movements. We marched to the U.S. Embassy in Cairo to protest the violent
> > eviction of the occupation in Oscar Grant Plaza in Oakland. Our strength is
> > in our shared struggle. If they stifle our resistance, the 1 percent will
> > win--in Cairo, New York, London, Rome--everywhere. But while the revolution
> > lives, our imaginations know no bounds. We can still create a world worth
> > living.
>
> > You can help us defend our revolution.
>
> > The G8, International Monetary Fund and Gulf states are promising the
> > regime loans of $35 billion. The U.S. gives the Egyptian military $1.3
> > billion in aid every year. Governments the world over continue their
> > long-term support and alliance with the military rulers of Egypt. The
> > bullets they kill us with are made in America. The tear gas that burns from
> > Oakland to Palestine is made in Wyoming<http://english.al-akhbar.com/blogs/gadfly/arms-firm-behind-suppressio...>.
> > David Cameron's first visit to post-revolutionary Egypt<http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2011/feb/21/cameron-cairo-visit-de...>was to close a weapons deal.
>
> > These are only a few examples. People's lives, freedoms and futures must
> > stop being trafficked for strategic assets. We must unite against
> > governments who do not share their people's interests.
>
> > We are calling on you to undertake solidarity actions to help us oppose
> > this crackdown. We are suggesting an International Day to Defend the
> > Egyptian Revolution on November 12 under the slogan "Defend the Egyptian
> > Revolution: End Military Trials for Civilians."
>
> > Events could include:
>
> > -- Actions targeting Egyptian embassies or consulates demanding the
> > release of civilians sentenced in military tribunals. If Alaa is released,
> > demand the release of the thousands of others.
>
> > -- Actions targeting your government to end support for the Egyptian junta.
>
> > -- Demand the release of civilians sentenced to military tribunals. If
> > Alaa is released, the thousands of others must follow.
>
> > -- Show videos about the repression we face (military trials, Maspero
> > massacre) and our continued resistance. E-mail us for links<defendtherevolut...@gmail.com>
> > .
>
> > -- Videoconferencing with activists in Egypt.
>
> > -- Any creative way to show your support and to show the Egyptian people
> > that they have allies abroad.
>
> > If you're organizing anything or wish to, e-mail us at
> > defendtherevolut...@gmail.com. We would also love to see photos and
> > videos from any events you organize.
>
> > The Campaign to End Military Trials of Civilians
> > The Free Alaa Campaign
> > Mosireen
> > Comrades from Cairo
>
> > On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 2:53 PM, beka economopoulos <
> > b...@notanalternative.net> wrote:
>
> >> Forwarding a message / communique from activists in Cairo, who were
> >> concerned to learn that the OWS GA passed a proposal to designate
> >> $20,000 in funds for members of OWS to travel to Egypt to do election
> >> monitoring.
>
> >> I do not have contact info for folks in the Movement Building Working
> >> Group, perhaps this should be shared there?
>
> >> -b
>
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>
> >> To our kindred occupiers in Zuccotti park,
>
> >> When we called out to you, requesting you join us on 12 November in
> >> defending our revolution and in our campaign against the military
> >> trial of civilians in Egypt, your
>
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