From:   Bruce Wagner <bruce@onlyonetv.com>
Sent time:   Monday, November 14, 2011 8:07:12 AM
To:   globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com
Subject:   SPAM-MED: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Fwd: Egypt
 

Isn't anyone at liberty to pay for their own trip to Egypt and go...?

 

No approvals needed for that.

 

 

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Vlad T <vlad@glassbeadcollective.org> wrote:

> someone should reach out to the "movement building" working group and let

> them know that the egyptians need help this week before and when they take

> tahrir.  the discussions need to speedup.

>

> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Lauri Faggioni <lfaggioni@me.com> wrote:

>>

>>

>> Begin forwarded message:

>>

>> From: Joshua van Praag <jvanpraag@mac.com>

>> Date: November 14, 2011 9:49:03 AM EST

>> To: Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com>

>> Cc: globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com, Lauri Faggioni

>> <lfaggioni@me.com>, movementbuildingny@googlegroups.com, jwedes@gmail.com

>> Subject: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Fwd: Egypt

>>

>> Hi Cari

>> You're right, I don't believe we have met -- I'm with the media working

>> group.

>> The info I put out re movement-building and the timeline for an amendment

>> came from another of our colleagues, Marisa Holmes who asked me to send it

>> out to our group. She ran down to 60 Wall last night to speak to MB to try

>> to buy us all some time on this. We spent all day yesterday talking with

>> activists on the ground in Egypt and people active on the issue here to try

>> to get a sense of where different people stand and what the possible role of

>> a delegation could be, given the political implications.  Believe it or not

>> there are many people, not just yourself, that are concerned about this.

>> The best way for us to be able to make informed decisions is to inform

>> ourselves and share information - I can tell you that I'll be sharing the

>> information I have with my WG at our Tuesday meeting.

>> Marisa was present at the meeting last night when movement-building

>> consensed upon the following timeline:

>> 1. Wednesday eve - 1st Info session for all

>> 2. Friday eve - 2nd info session culminating in consensus on either a new

>> proposal or a friendly amendment to the existing proposal

>> 3. Sat GA - Either amendment or new proposal will be taken in front of the

>> GA, for consensus

>> If you still believe this info to be incorrect, pls contact Marisa so we

>> can clear it up.

>> Best

>> Josh vP

>>

>> Joshua van Praag

>> jvanpraag@mac.com

>> +1 347 445 8315

>> +44 (0)7787 896952

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> On Nov 14, 2011, at 2:28 AM, Cari Machet wrote:

>>

>> ows is you

>> as for me i am in meetings and movement moving

>> direct action IS!!!!!

>> and i see victoria working her 'little' ass off livestreaming everything

>> she can

>> these are not 'assemblies'

>> comparatives like timeline/linear likenesses are illogical when we are

>> functioning in spheres - spiral cones - nodes non-linear models

>>

>> Cari Machet

>> NYC 646-436-7795

>> carimachet@gmail.com

>> AIM carismachet

>> Skype carimachet - 646-652-6434

>> Syria +963-099 277 3243

>> Amman +962 077 636 9407

>> Twitter: @carimachet

>> dot connector

>>

>>

>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Vlad T <vlad@glassbeadcollective.org>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> and our model is take the square - they are taking tahrir on friday.

>>> where is ows going to be? in another assembly?

>>>

>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> those are not the 'biggest concerns'

>>>> the biggest concerns have not been consented on yet

>>>> the deepest concern is FOR ME that we would be possibly legitimizing a

>>>> shadow/junta government by being involved in an election process even though

>>>> only peripherally

>>>> our model is our message - following our model is important

>>>> optics - who cares - not me - i care about reality

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> Cari Machet

>>>> NYC 646-436-7795

>>>> carimachet@gmail.com

>>>> AIM carismachet

>>>> Skype carimachet - 646-652-6434

>>>> Syria +963-099 277 3243

>>>> Amman +962 077 636 9407

>>>> Twitter: @carimachet

>>>> dot connector

>>>>

>>>>

>>>> On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Justin Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> I think it's important to evaluate where information is coming from and

>>>>> separating what seem to be the two biggest concerns:

>>>>> 1) The political/optics implications in involving ourselves in this

>>>>> project

>>>>> and

>>>>> 2) The difficulty working groups are having in selecting their

>>>>> representatives.

>>>>> Just my $.02

>>>>> -j

>>>>> On Nov 14, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Cari Machet wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> listen when ever someone is using language like:

>>>>>

>>>>> 'Hopefully this will clarify some important details it seems are still

>>>>> unknown to many people in this working group and others.'

>>>>>

>>>>> are you in our working group?

>>>>> you do not know what i do not know 'still unkown"

>>>>> i have never heard your name -

>>>>> do i know you?

>>>>> YOU are the unknown

>>>>> your information is not correct here

>>>>> we are working very hard and do not need people to put out

>>>>> misinformation

>>>>> please check our website for ACTUAL minutes of meetings and details

>>>>> ++++i would appreciate a retraction of the information in this email

>>>>> ASAP++++++

>>>>> i am not going to correct all the exact misinformation here

>>>>> but i will say we are not presenting anything to spokes council -

>>>>> spokes council is a still forming body and beyond that we only present

>>>>> proposals to the GA

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> Cari Machet

>>>>> NYC 646-436-7795

>>>>> carimachet@gmail.com

>>>>> AIM carismachet

>>>>> Skype carimachet - 646-652-6434

>>>>> Syria +963-099 277 3243

>>>>> Amman +962 077 636 9407

>>>>> Twitter: @carimachet

>>>>> dot connector

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Alexander Penley

>>>>> <Alexander@penleygloballaw.com> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Perfect! Thanks all.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On Nov 13, 2011 7:12 PM, "Lauri Faggioni" <lfaggioni@me.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> From: Joshua van Praag <jvanpraag@mac.com>

>>>>>>> Date: November 13, 2011 7:09:57 PM EST

>>>>>>> To: Lauri Faggioni <lfaggioni@me.com>

>>>>>>> Subject: Egypt

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Dear comrades

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> This Egypt delegation has fast become a very controversial issue, and

>>>>>>> it's clear to anyone who is a little informed as to the plurality of voices

>>>>>>> on the ground in Egypt, that a clarifying statement of the delegation's

>>>>>>> position on the upcoming parliamentary elections and possibly other matters

>>>>>>> besides, will need to be added as a friendly amendment to the pre-existing

>>>>>>> proposal.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The movement-building working group will hold an info session on

>>>>>>> Wednesday which all are encouraged to please attend. Hopefully this will

>>>>>>> clarify some important details it seems are still unknown to many people in

>>>>>>> this working group and others.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Movement-building will be taking the responsibility of crafting the

>>>>>>> amendment and will be taking ideas from anyone that wants to contribute.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Friday, the friendly amendment will be presented to the Spokes

>>>>>>> Council.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> In Solidarity

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Josh

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Joshua van Praag

>>>>>>> jvanpraag@mac.com

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> +1 347 445 8315

>>>>>>> +44 (0)7787 896952

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

>>

>>

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