Subject: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: Film Screenings using audio transmitted over radio - possible answer
From: Daniel Levine
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 00:15:22 -0400
To: globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com

I'm part of the radio working group and you'll often see me at photojournalism (Media #FILM) too. you can also contact linnea at lpalmerpaton@gmail.com if you want. It sounds like this is going to be more of an internet thing at least to begin with but it would be cool if you could come to one of the radio meetings at some point to bring it up. We're going to be pretty busy tomorrow with the WBAI stuff so don't worry about it. You can ask linnea to add you to the google group for radio so you'll know when we're meeting again. We're still just trying to get everybody together and we have a big project with BAI so it's going to be a minute before we're podcasting or doing live audiostreaming. But I will mention it tomorrow.

love.
d

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Pam Tietze <pam.tietze@gmail.com> wrote:
Unfortunately I can't be there at 2p tomorrow because of work, but if
anyone else can...please do!

Are you part of the group actually? I wasn't sure. If not, do you have
a contact for someone?

On Oct 11, 5:49 pm, Daniel Levine <danieltrump...@gmail.com> wrote:
> sounds good. Do you think you could stop by Radio WG at 2pm tomorrow to
> bring up this idea? We meet under the red cube.
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> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Pam Tietze <pam.tie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I think it can work for both. There can be several 'channels' for each
> > need, and people can listen to the one that's appropriate for what
> > they're interested in at the moment. Personally, I've had difficulty
> > communicating with both of those groups (I'm also new to the way
> > things work), so if you know how to reach out, please advise. Thanks
> > Daniel!
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> > Also, we've used the word 'radio' alot, but just to clarify I think
> > it's starting to focus in on internet 'radio' solely so people can use
> > their phones. Although if Radio WG wanted to take the reins on good
> > old fashioned radio, that would be great. I imagine that if you're
> > live streaming a GA meeting with a mic, it would be pretty easy to do
> > it both ways at once. I'm focusing on getting the internet side going
> > first though!
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> > On Oct 11, 5:00 pm, Daniel Levine <danieltrump...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Aside from the technical aspects, are you guys envisioning broadcast
> > radio
> > > as a media outlet or simply a device to serve as an electronic version of
> > > people's mic for those of in the square?
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> > > The first case would definitely fall under the umbrella of our Radio WG
> > and
> > > we need and appreciate help. The second might be something for the lovely
> > > folks at internet.
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> > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:07 AM, John Greaves <j...@3knightsmedia.com
> > >wrote:
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> > > > There might be an issue with broadcasting radio which they might try to
> > use
> > > > legal tactics to shut down but radio would be a good idea.
>
> > > > One solution which I have been working on but have only gotten a
> > prototype
> > > > to work is to use icecast streaming server. There is a nice mac program
> > > > based on this called Nicecasthttp://www.rogueamoeba.com/**nicecast/<
> >http://www.rogueamoeba.com/nicecast/>
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> > > > this lets you start an internet radio station using itunes or just the
> > mic
> > > > on your computer. It's a free trial that lets you broadcast for an hour
> > at a
> > > > time, but it's only like $60 for the full license.
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> > > > This is initially set up to broadcast over the internet, but if you can
> > > > have a wireless router running hooked up to a computer using nicecast
> > then
> > > > anyone who joins that wireless network will be able to listen to the
> > audio.
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> > > > a few problems: there is a 7 second delay on the audio so it might not
> > be
> > > > good to sync movies. I'm not sure how much capacity this will have, but
> > the
> > > > prototype works.
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> > > > people join the wireless router's network then go to a local url and
> > hit
> > > > play from an html5 browser.
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> > > > Another possible answer for streaming movies is using the same network
> > > > router, but using vlc to stream the movie over the network so a bunch
> > of
> > > > people can view it on their phone. THis would work, but is best for
> > > > prerecorded stuff because there is a 7 second delay on the video too.
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> > > > THis can be really powerful if you guys want to spend the energy to
> > make it
> > > > work.
> > > > it can also create a local web site that people can access to see
> > what's
> > > > happening and what is needed within the local area network range. If we
> > can
> > > > get it working it can be replicated pretty easily and cheaply.
>
> > > > I am not available to be there until next week but I can skype or email
> > > > with people on the details of the procedure to get these solutions
> > going.
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> > > > Radio might just be the answer, but I thought I would add this
> > additional
> > > > info
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> > > > John
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> > > > On 10/11/11 9:37 AM, Pam Tietze wrote:
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> > > >> If we can use an FM transmitter that can cover the length of the
> > > >> square, we can 'occupy' a station and transmit audio (yes the GA
> > > >> meetings and whatever else people want) live that people can listen to
> > > >> with their phones. I think. Ha
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> > > >> That airtime can be scheduled like a calendar so people can transmit
> > > >> different info at all times. It gets around the amplification issue.
>
> > > >> It seems pretty simple to me in theory. It's like what they use on
> > > >> walking tours, etc.
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> > > >> On Oct 11, 8:37 am, Daniel Levine<danieltrump...@gmail.**com<
> > danieltrump...@gmail.com>>
> > > >>  wrote:
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> > > >>> Pam. Not sure exactly what you had in mind, but we have a radio
> > working
> > > >>> group. WBAI is giving us a half hour slot on their station starting
> > next
> > > >>> week (mon-fri 6:30-7). We're also looking into podcasting if you can
> > help
> > > >>> call me. 347-853-2612
>
> > > >>> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Pam Tietze<pam.tie...@gmail.com>
> > > >>>  wrote:
>
> > > >>>> Hi there,
> > > >>>> It's completely possible that this has already been discussed, but I
> > > >>>> was wondering why we don't transmit audio on a radio channel so
> > people
> > > >>>> can tune in and/or listen with their phones. I was thinking about
> > this
> > > >>>> because I wanted to screen films  at the square and was trying to
> > > >>>> think of different ways for people to hear the audio aside from
> > > >>>> subtitles.
> > > >>>> There could also be a website where people can 'tune in' and listen
> > > >>>> with their phones.
> > > >>>> What do you think??
> > > >>>> Thanks,
> > > >>>> Pam
> > > >>>> 254-681-8061

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