Subject: Re: [NYCGA Internet] PLEASE READ REGARDING VOTING TOOLS
From: Christian
Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 15:15:13 -0700
To: internet_working_group@googlegroups.com
CC: OWS Solutions <ows_solutions@freenetworkfoundation.org>, fragro <fragro@gmail.com>

As someone who works with a group that deploys civic tech, a big plus one on using one of the available platforms!!!

On Oct 11, 2011 5:54 PM, "Todd Grayson" <tgraysonco@gmail.com> wrote:

Please note that an extensive online voting "platform" that we can work with to customize to the movements needs (by contributing development) is in place and ready to assist.

They have a 2 year lead in development activity on the effort, it would be a massive undertaking to reach the level of maturity they have achieved.

There are considerations on deployment to scale to beyond working group voting online, but it will be a very good place to start.

The lead for this platform is ready to come out to NYC and meet with you teams to go through the platform, review possible changes.

I am planning on coming out to NYC at the same time.

Hit
http://www.openassembly.org/index.html
Register
start reading/reviewing/proposing agenda.

I have already discussed alternatives to their form of verification, to a token based approach (can be discussed in more detail as time allows) for realizing larger scale voting opportunities.

IMHO it would be a technical tragedy to attempt (and fail repeatedly) to build effective voting tools without leveraging this platform. Its a significant problem set to solve.

Thanks

Todd







On 10/11/2011 3:19 PM, Andrew Gwozdziewycz wrote:
Something like Reddit/Digg? Vote up good ideas?

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:15 PM, Mark Pruce<mpruce@gmail.com>  wrote:
It would be interesting to have a sort of Popular Ideas Soap Box that is
front-end-media-friendly (what do they want? well, check out the Soap Box..)
and a 'back end' where people (anyone) gets to vote and as long as an idea
gets 500 votes or something pretty small - the idea gets up on the board.
Just an idea, not a priority.
- M


--
Mark Pruce
Freelance Designer
518.789.4244
www.markpruce.com


On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Chaz Cheadle<ccheadle@gmail.com>  wrote:
We definitely want to get ideas heard. I just don't want CJ's ideas to get
lost in this forum.
Is there a place like Outreach or something that we could forward this to?
Will the new website have some way for people to contribute ideas?
Just a thought, a ticker on the website with points like this that are
contributed/voted on by GA.
chaz
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Drew Hornbein<dhornbein@gmail.com>
wrote:
Perhaps we can start dropping these in somewhere? Any ideas?
-Drew

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Chaz Cheadle<ccheadle@gmail.com>  wrote:
Those are some awesome points- and well though out.
This group is more geared towards the internet technology initiatives
for OWS.
I'd hate to see your ideas not get voiced.
chaz

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, cjs99<cjs99@cox.net>  wrote:


Dear Working Group,



I am semi-retired, a political independent, and worked in Washington
close to the political process, but as a civil servant.



I am TRULY an Independent and these are my own thoughts&  observations.



The politicians, corporations and even news media (campaign advertising
is BIG business) will howl at these suggestion but these need to be done.



Considering a unified platform that most Americans can support, and
will help correct the financial debacle we have seen for the past several
years,

here are some suggestions:





1.      Re-institute the Glass Steagal Act, concerning banking
regulation.





2.      The FDIC&  FED, limit the amount of leverage allowed by all
banking institutions, including investment banks licensed to do business in
the US.





3.      The concentration of the banking sector needs to be addressed,
we need to relearn the lessons from The Great Depression.  Concentration of
wealth in a few banks is a bad thing.





4.      The Security&  Exchange Commission should set limits on the
amount of leverage used related to stocks and other securities.





5.      Anyone or business or corporation who provides any financial
instrument, policy or other guarantee against loss in financial dealings,
(Credit Default Swaps), must follow the same regulations as insurance
companies and must hold directly 50 % of the risk on each policy and have
assets to cover those losses.



      Another and possibility better thought, is to outlaw CDS’s
completely and keep risk in the hands of the direct investors, where it
really should be.





6.      Provide immediate incentives for bringing foreign jobs back to
the US through tax incentives, not direct money from the government.





7.      Start a major “Buy American” campaign.





8.      Recognize that Lobbying firms may provide educational services,
however that should be their sole purpose.  Any trips undertaken by Congress
members or staff must be paid for directly by the taxpayer funds and
accounted for.





9.      No businesses or corporations doing business with the Federal
Government may be allowed to donate any monies for Federal Office election
or re-election campaign funds, or provide any other inducements to Federal
Office holders and are prohibited from employing family members of office
holders or staff members.



10.  While corporations may be allowed to advertised during election
cycles, they may only present the direct position of their corporation and
how the election would influence their corporation in real terms.  They may
not, under any circumstance, fund any advertisements in direct endorsement
or opposition to specific candidates.





One overriding principal is to get the big money&  influence out of
politics, completely.  It skews and perverts the political process.



Get the power and influence back to the middle class&  people, it
actually would be better for smaller&  mid-sized companies in the US:





Pass a Constitutional Amendment where:



1.      Those running for Federal Office may only accept contributions
from individual voting constituents who reside within their Congressional
District, or State in the case of Senators or the US and territories for the
Office of President.  The size of such contributions shall be limited to
$2000.00 per annum, per individual, adjusted for CPI inflation annually.



2.      That businesses, companies, corporations, lobbying groups,
banking or financial institutions are forbidden from making/providing any
political contributions or other things of value, directly or indirectly, to
anyone holding public office, their employees or their families or others
bound by interest or affection.  That no promises or inducements for future
remuneration shall be legal.









Recognize businesses&  corporations do good and employ people, they are
not evil.  However they have followed a short term and near sited quest for
profits at any cost, and in effect gutted much of the production
capabilities of our country.  That production loss has cost millions of
middle class jobs and is compromising the fabric of our country.  It is time
that politicians, from both sides, start thinking of the best interests of
the 99% of the people (who are 99% of the voters), not those that bankroll
their campaigns.



A vibrant middle class is the backbone of our country.







A Fellow Citizen,



C J

Virginia






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