Subject: Re: [Ows_solutions] [NYCGA Internet] A Coherent Platform for Demonstrations
From: arcas@hushmail.com
Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:21:18 +0100
To: bailey.mccann@gmail.com, internet_working_group@googlegroups.com, ows_solutions@freenetworkfoundation.org, ted@tedschulman.com

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I have been using http://www.openassembly.org since it was
discussed on this list previously and it can certainly help with
getting people heard, making sure ideas are captured and voting on
them. It's also open source and the developer is extremely engaged.
This is a big+ imho.

That being said there are some other open source things like
uservoice like:
http://www.ideatorrent.org
http://bbyidx.com

AB




On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 16:06:51 +0100 Ted Schulman
<ted@tedschulman.com> wrote:
UserVoice has good functionality but its a service and not open
source
- we should be looking for open source applications that we can
host
ourselves. If there are no acceptable open source  alternatives
then
we can consider services.

Thanks,
Ted

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Bailey McCann
<bailey.mccann@gmail.com> wrote:
There are systems like UserVoice which have systems set up for
governing
bodies that allow people to vote for and submit ideas.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Ted Schulman
<ted@tedschulman.com> wrote:

 There are a few Consensus 'voice' systems like
http://javoice.joomlart.com/  - we should look at options in
this
functional category.

Thanks,
Ted


On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Jessica Yazbek
<j.yzbek@gmail.com> wrote:
New to the list this morning and have been following this
thread. I
think
it'd be awesome to have a section of the new site with a
place for
people to
submit ideas and vote on them.
Jessica

On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:11 PM, Chaz Cheadle wrote:

We definitely want to get ideas heard. I just don't want CJ's
ideas to
get
lost in this forum.
Is there a place like Outreach or something that we could
forward this
to?
Will the new website have some way for people to contribute
ideas?
Just a thought, a ticker on the website with points like this
that are
contributed/voted on by GA.
chaz
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Drew Hornbein
<dhornbein@gmail.com>
wrote:

Perhaps we can start dropping these in somewhere? Any ideas?
-Drew

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Chaz Cheadle
<ccheadle@gmail.com>
wrote:

Those are some awesome points- and well though out.
This group is more geared towards the internet technology
initiatives
for
OWS.
I'd hate to see your ideas not get voiced.
chaz

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:01 PM, cjs99 <cjs99@cox.net>
wrote:



Dear Working Group,



I am semi-retired, a political independent, and worked in
Washington
close to the political process, but as a civil servant.



I am TRULY an Independent and these are my own thoughts &
observations.



The politicians, corporations and even news media
(campaign
advertising
is BIG business) will howl at these suggestion but these
need to be
done.



Considering a unified platform that most Americans can
support, and
will
help correct the financial debacle we have seen for the
past several
years,

here are some suggestions:





1.      Re-institute the Glass Steagal Act, concerning
banking
regulation.





2.      The FDIC & FED, limit the amount of leverage
allowed by all
banking institutions, including investment banks licensed
to do
business in
the US.





3.      The concentration of the banking sector needs to
be
addressed,
we need to relearn the lessons from The Great Depression.
Concentration of
wealth in a few banks is a bad thing.





4.      The Security & Exchange Commission should set
limits on the
amount of leverage used related to stocks and other
securities.





5.      Anyone or business or corporation who provides any
financial
instrument, policy or other guarantee against loss in
financial
dealings,
(Credit Default Swaps), must follow the same regulations
as insurance
companies and must hold directly 50 % of the risk on each
policy and
have
assets to cover those losses.



      Another and possibility better thought, is to outlaw
CDS’s
completely and keep risk in the hands of the direct
investors, where
it
really should be.





6.      Provide immediate incentives for bringing foreign
jobs back
to
the US through tax incentives, not direct money from the
government.





7.      Start a major “Buy American” campaign.





8.      Recognize that Lobbying firms may provide
educational
services,
however that should be their sole purpose.  Any trips
undertaken by
Congress
members or staff must be paid for directly by the taxpayer
funds and
accounted for.





9.      No businesses or corporations doing business with
the Federal
Government may be allowed to donate any monies for Federal
Office
election
or re-election campaign funds, or provide any other
inducements to
Federal
Office holders and are prohibited from employing family
members of
office
holders or staff members.



10.  While corporations may be allowed to advertised
during election
cycles, they may only present the direct position of their
corporation and
how the election would influence their corporation in real
terms.
They may
not, under any circumstance, fund any advertisements in
direct
endorsement
or opposition to specific candidates.





One overriding principal is to get the big money &
influence out of
politics, completely.  It skews and perverts the political
process.



Get the power and influence back to the middle class &
people, it
actually would be better for smaller & mid-sized companies
in the US:





Pass a Constitutional Amendment where:



1.      Those running for Federal Office may only accept
contributions
from individual voting constituents who reside within
their
Congressional
District, or State in the case of Senators or the US and
territories
for the
Office of President.  The size of such contributions shall
be limited
to
$2000.00 per annum, per individual, adjusted for CPI
inflation
annually.



2.      That businesses, companies, corporations, lobbying
groups,
banking or financial institutions are forbidden from
making/providing
any
political contributions or other things of value, directly
or
indirectly, to
anyone holding public office, their employees or their
families or
others
bound by interest or affection.  That no promises or
inducements for
future
remuneration shall be legal.









Recognize businesses & corporations do good and employ
people, they
are
not evil.  However they have followed a short term and
near sited
quest for
profits at any cost, and in effect gutted much of the
production
capabilities of our country.  That production loss has
cost millions
of
middle class jobs and is compromising the fabric of our
country.  It
is time
that politicians, from both sides, start thinking of the
best
interests of
the 99% of the people (who are 99% of the voters), not
those that
bankroll
their campaigns.



A vibrant middle class is the backbone of our country.







A Fellow Citizen,



C J

Virginia







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