Subject: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] PLEASE READ: UPDATE FROM PR Re: "The Cleaning"
From: Vlad T
Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 11:31:21 -0400

during m15 in madrid and barcelona the excuse to clean the area led to a huge confortation in bacelona.  police basically came in, seized all cameras media equipment etcetra then proceeded to beat a crowd of about 300 into a pulp.  this galvanized the movement and 50000 people showed up to plaza catalonya within hours.  for a few months after that there were no attempts to clean the square.  the occupiers do not get disheatened usually - at least they didnt in spain.  do you think americans dont have the chops?

Police did block of sol square in july of this year, and held it for 4 days as 40000 people were trying to enter it from all sides.  eventually they relented.  

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:14 AM, kari giron <> wrote:
Does anyone know how exactly the cleanup efforts led to the ends of the other occupations? 
Did they mass arrest for other offenses once the police were inside the camp? 
Did the police put up barriers so the occupiers couldn't return? 
Did occupiers simply become disheartened? 

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Steven Macchia <> wrote:
That's exactly what the feeling was here last night when we got the notice, and also what the NLG was telling us they think that the alt. motives might be. Once the NLG came up to the media tent and told us that we were especially suspicious. 99% will prevail.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:50 AM, beka economopoulos <> wrote:
Hi all, an update:

Several members of PR just hopped off the phone with external allies in Labor and other orgs and everyone's in agreement that this is a pretext to shut the occupation down.  

Bloombergville - a 2 wk occupation at City Hall earlier this summer - was shut down in the same way, as was the M-15 encampments in Barcelona and Madrid in late Spring. 

Talking points: 

1) We see this as a pretext to shut the occupation down.  Bloombergville - a 2 wk occupation at City Hall earlier this summer - was shut down in the same way, as was the M-15 encampments in Barcelona and Madrid in late Spring.  The Brookfield "rules" -- no lying down, sleeping bags, tarps -- are untenable.

2) We have an OWS Sanitation Operation, we don't need the city's crew.  We have been self-governing and self-organized and taking care of our space.  We already had a big clean-up planned and we're moving that forward a day - TO TODAY. 

2) If Bloomberg really cared about sanitation here he wouldn't have blocked porto potties and dumpsters.  OWS allies have been working to secure these things on our behalf.  

3)  We won't allow them to come in.  This is an occupation, not a permitted picnic.  


* Discussing holding a 3pm press conference with Julie the Chair of Community Board 1, a member of OWS, and possibly someone else.  To get message out before first filing deadlines.

* Allies looking into possibility of 6pm press conference with Black and Hispanic Caucus, Labor and other allies.  

* Allies sending email blast to membership nationally calling for phone calls to Bloomberg and 311.  Also putting call out for NYers to come at 5 or 6 am. Friday to defend the space, and if they can spend the night here great.

* OWS TO DO: Want to put out all-call for cleaning support TODAY (and have some of that happen while cameras are rolling at 3pm and 6pm press conferences)


I might be forgetting something but want to send you an update now....


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