Subject: Re: [NYCGA Internet] Participatory Voting Platform
From: arcas bradbury
Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2011 19:20:41 +0100
To: internet_working_group@googlegroups.com

I have been using http://www.openassembly.org and think they have some solid ideas they have implemented to help with group decision making. It's entirely open source and you can run your own instance on app engine as well. It needs some work on the IA and needs people to get in there and make some solid suggestions and get involved in the debate as well. 

I think it's a mistake to try and make some location or another the system of record, each of these platforms should be figuring out how they can work together and how ideas can be federated between them. Just because one tool is the source of a good idea doesn't mean that tool shouldn't make that idea available to other idea platforms. 

I also think it's worth mentioning that Ward Cunningham (who invented the wiki) is working on a federated wiki and I think some of the problems he's solving could help as we think about systems to support numerous autonomous groups, or as Monty Python would put it an "autonomous collective". 

Best,

AB
 

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Sam Boyer <act@samboyer.org> wrote:
ok, csv should work, though it's not optimal - can be weird escaping
issues sometimes. would getting JSON more publicly accessible be
feasible? wrt auth, i meant for getting access to the machine-readable data.

i ask about this because it seems clear to me that, if this were to
generate a bunch of interest, we'd want to roll the data generated by
that site into various other sites. (hey, this is the internet,
remashing data is what we do). could you point me to where that data is
accessible?

On 10/16/11 10:29 AM, Mark Belinsky wrote:
> Sam,
>
> The system is written in Ruby and all the data is available in machine
> readable format. Currently, CSV is the easiest to get to. In terms of
> authentication, do you mean user or machine. On the former, I'm curious
> to get a FacebookSocial wrapper, so people can be anonymous or not,
> according to their interest. Any Ruby people interested in helping?
> There's room on other projects too (translation, etc). On the latter...
> https://github.com/allourideas/allourideas.org
>
> Best,
> Mark
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, Sam Boyer <act@samboyer.org
> <mailto:act@samboyer.org>> wrote:
>
>     nifty. is the data generated by this site available for machine
>     consumption? in what format? *crosses fingers for JSON* is there any
>     kind of authentication?
>
>     Mark Belinsky <mbelinsky@digital-democracy.org
>     <mailto:mbelinsky@digital-democracy.org>> wrote:
>
>     >
> Hi General Assembly innovators,
>
> I've been working on this participatory decision-making platform
> "allourideas" to get at a tangible way of real-time broad based
> democratic decision making. Please check it out here:
> http://www.allourideas.org/occupywallstreet?info=netwrkgrp . It asks
> you, to "Vote On Which Idea You Like Better". Feel free to click
>>     and vote.
>
> In the next few days, I'm hoping we can gather volunteers to set up a
> "voting booth." Basically people take with tablets at Freedom Park to
> ask people to vote on the ideas that they'd like to see. If you're
> interested in helping, please let me know and I'll include you as part
> of the planning group.
>
> This site is an initial attempt to see if the tool speaks to people.
> Digital Democracy has had some successes with this with our friends in
> Egypt, Tunisia and Morocco, and I'm hoping we can take the lessons and
> open source tools we've been working with around the world to continue
> to support the marginalized, even in this country - the 99%. I hope to
> hear from you. Thanks so much for your time.
>
> Disclosure: All of the ideas on the allourideas site are currently
> seeded from demands heard at #OWS and from unscientific polls that I've
> seen covered in a variety of media sources. Fast company, CNN, WSJ &
> occupywallstreet forum, plus Matt Taibbi. The site is completely open
> and transparent. If you'd like to see an idea that's not currently in
> the system, please add it, this site is open source, transparent,
> participatory, and accountable to us all.
>
> All the best,
> Mark
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