Subject: Re: [NYCGA Internet] New to the group - Please STOP using google groups
From: Sam Boyer
Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 13:55:10 -0700
To: internet_working_group@googlegroups.com

we could do that, but i would rather have a *real* ticket tracker, like
redmine, for actually managing projects (see my other email from a bit
ago, we're throwing one up now). very very few drupal shops actually use
OA for internal project management, and i'd say we should follow that
guidance.

more importantly, i'd think it's useful to have any area which is
specifically about hacking on projects, setting milestones, killing
tickets, and that having that overlap with the more general discussion
areas could actually be a drawback. it's always worked pretty well that
way on drupal.org itself - d.o issue queues for real, actionable
code-related items, and g.d.o if it's still to ethereal to merit
entrance into an actual issue.

cheers
s

On 10/17/11 12:49 PM, Chaz Cheadle wrote:
Would it help if we set up an OpenAtrium site with Casetracker? I can
get one up today and we put different techs/plugin initiatives in their
own Case and track them that way. For those not familiar with OA, it's
an opensource replacement/variant of Basecamp.


chaz

On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Sam Boyer <act@samboyer.org
<mailto:act@samboyer.org>> wrote:



    On 10/17/11 12:21 PM, Chaz Cheadle wrote:
    > Ron,
    > Can you clarify at all?
    > I think most of us feel in the dark here.

    yes, that'd be great. the thinking is that the mailing lists will be
    entirely replaced, then?

    > If a lot of people are working on a lot of things, is anyone
    > coordinating that? We have heard only that things are being worked on,
    > and despite repeated attempts of volunteers reaching out to get
    involved
    > or offering services (such as WiFi in the park) it seems no help
    is needed.
    > If things are being worked on such as a group calendar, why has
    that not
    > been brought up for collaboration or input on this list? Perhaps
    someone
    > here on the list has a very good solution ready to drop in place on a
    > WordPress site.
    > With no technology roadmap, people will keep asking about
    features, work
    > will be duplicated, and opportunities will be missed.
    >
    > chaz
    >
    >
    >
    > On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:49 PM, Dr.Ron Suarez
    <ron.suarez@loudfeed.com <mailto:ron.suarez@loudfeed.com>
    > <mailto:ron.suarez@loudfeed.com <mailto:ron.suarez@loudfeed.com>>>
    wrote:
    >
    >     Google Groups is only a temporary solution. A  lot of people are
    >     currently working on many new things we'll be announcing shortly.
    >
    >     @drron
    >
    >
    >     On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 2:29 PM, Sam Boyer <act@samboyer.org
    <mailto:act@samboyer.org>
    >     <mailto:act@samboyer.org <mailto:act@samboyer.org>>> wrote:
    >
    >         > If you have a gmail address, I won't be emailing you.
    >         a bit stronger than what i'd go with, but i REALLY agree
    with the
    >         sentiment that i am deeply uncomfortable about using google
    >         groups for
    >         this. riseup, something else - this is a known, defined
    problem
    >         space
    >         with trustworthy solutions, folks.
    >
    >         On 10/16/11 10:07 PM, rmd@luxport.com
    <mailto:rmd@luxport.com> <mailto:rmd@luxport.com
    <mailto:rmd@luxport.com>>
    >         wrote:
    >         > Hi everyone.
    >         > I am Rojay, or Roger Marx Desenberg.
    >         >
    >         > I invented adwords, I own the patent US Patent 7,139,732
    >         > and the copyrights.
    >         > I have been in a legal battle for 12 years, and I am
    going to
    >         get what's mine.
    >         > My life was stolen, my identity taken, and I have been broke
    >         for a long while.
    >         > I have battled against federal and supreme court judges that
    >         are bribed, and my own attorneys who were bribed.
    >         > 99% of google's money is from the illegal infringement and
    >         copying of my property.
    >         > I am going to arrest the google boys now.
    >         > The Revolution will be streamed.
    >         >
    >         > PLEASE STOP USING GOOGLE GROUPS FOR THE OCCUPY WALLSTREET!
    >         >
    >         > There are other systems, and it is very INSECURE to let the
    >         corporations know what we are all thinking on a minute to
    minute
    >         basis.
    >         > BESIDES - using Google Groups REALLY hurst ONE member of
    >         Occupy Wallstreet (me),
    >         > and I think everyone should be cared about. Me and you too.
    >         >
    >         > I propose we use something ELSE!
    >         >
    >         > I have three Internet servers, two web, one Oracle db
    server.
    >         > I have coded in over 30 languages in my day.
    >         > I have worked as lead architect for Delta Airtraffic
    >         controller systems,
    >         > for Online banking for Bank of America
    >         > at UPS headquarters leading mission critical info system
    projects.
    >         >
    >         > Hence, I may be able to help anyone in this group with
    >         computer stuff.
    >         > But I don't KNOW everything!
    >         > And as a matter of fact, i need a tomact/apache install
    expert
    >         who can make changes and recompile stuff - but that's
    another story.
    >         >
    >         > AND I HAVE A HUGE PROPOSAL that will change the
    Internet, and
    >         it's not that hard to implement.
    >         > But I ain't talking about it over google lines.
    >         > If you have a gmail address, I won't be emailing you.
    >         >
    >         > See you at Liberty Plaza!
    >         > Rojay
    >         >
    >         > OneRedPill.com
    >         >
    >         >
    >         >
    >         >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >     --
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