> > On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 11:13 PM, Jake <jake...@gmail.com
> > I think that there is a big difference between people within the GA
> > doing this kind of thing, and people on the outside doing this kind of
> > thing. If you're from the outside, this is community fundraising. Like
> > I said, it seems to me like it is the same as passing your hat around
> > at church or something. Maybe his donors wouldn't have given at all,
> > or even known about it if it wasn't for his outreach. Maybe they are
> > attracted to his earmarks for the money and would have been hesitant
> > to donate to the general donations link at NYCGA.
> > For all we know, anyone who makes a donation online could have
> > collected money first from friends and skimmed off the top. This is
> > between the independent fundraiser and their donators. If there were
> > fraud involved, I say we knock his kneecaps off. But if he's not
> > claiming to be us and not lying to anyone, while I may not approve of
> > or agree with what he is doing, I really don't see the problem, nor do
> > I see what business it is of ours, nor do I see what we can really do
> > about it, even if we decided we wanted to do something.
> > Regarding WePay, as of tonight, that is the same system we will be
> > using to process official online donations for now. So, in other
> > words, going straight to NYCGA is still going to WePay anyway.
> > Anyway, that is just one man's opinion of the situation. If you are
> > upset by it, though, and want to bring it up to Legal or Finance or
> > the GA, I don't think you need anyone's permission to speak up.
> > jake
> > On Oct 15, 10:02 am, Tim Pool <mediaincompl...@gmail.com
> > > Most of what you see is him appeasing us. It has been a struggle to get
> > him
> > > to change many things on the page, such as adding the NYCGA link
> > > I also heard anonymous contacted him and told him to stop.
> > > He told me in a message on facebook (which I'll gladly show anyone, and
> > > already showed Hero) that he wants to set up 100 wepay pages.
> > > My concern is stemming from his lies, his patchy approach to appeasing
> > us,
> > > the 8% cost, and the fact that if he does create 100 donation pages it
> > will
> > > decentralize
> > > donations, not only that but any money going to his page(s) are subject
> > to
> > > his 8% costs.
> > > Are we ok with that? He can easily link ppl straight to NYCGA. Why bother
> > > with wepay? In fact wepay alone takes 3.5% so then hes going to send that
> > > 96.5% to AFGJ
> > > dont they take a cut too? Its needlessly diluting donations.
> > > Would people be mad at me if I made a wepay to raise money and kept 8%?
> > > -
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