This is very well put, Lauri. This sentiment of coming to together to
resolve our (& larger issues) is an important idea with which to come
into the meeting.
Together we can accomplish everything.
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Lauri Faggioni <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
I don't know about you guys, but I've been oscillating between extreme
feelings of hope and soaring pride for everyone involved in this movement
and a real anger. I am walking around with some deep anger from seeing
innocent people get beat up and maced, angry at being thrown in jail, pissed
off at the constant intimidation and fear lurking on our backs. The lack of
sleep and minimal food and water consumption don't help either. When I come
home at night, trying to digest the day, I feel like a crazy person.
That being said I know I bring this stuff to the table everywhere I go. So I
am constantly trying to check in with myself and not let my ego spin out in
reaction to the extremeness of my feelings. I'm trying everyday to channel
my anger in productive ways. Sometimes I am better at this then others.
Judging from the different emails that have been going around lately I'm
gonna guess this resonates with most of you too.
The division in the media group has to be resolved. I feel like we are
starting to turn our frustrations in on each other. We have to join forces
otherwise we will just wind up destroying ourselves. If we can't sort this
out in the Media group, which is ultimately is just a drop in the bucket of
the bigger picture, the entire movement doesn't stand a chance. We have to
be better to each other, get on the same team and tighten our junk up…
Really looking forward to tonights meeting. I hope we can get some resolve
and move forward. I am so proud of each and every one of you.
On Oct 18, 2011, at 1:02 PM, Hank Testor wrote:
it is my understanding that thorin is the self-described leader of the other
media group, "his" group has been getting money from shady people while
offering no transparency, they operate hierarchically , and have been rogue
from the beginning and not participating in any media meetings or working
with the GA. it is said that thorin will also not renounce himself as
"leader" because it will compromise the content of his channel. now, i think
we are all fighting the same fight but if any one of these is true then we
have a big problem that needs to be addressed asap. i would like to bring
both media teams together at the 5pm media meeting today and figure out what
exactly is going on.
On 10/17/11 10:27 PM, Nicholas Isabella wrote:
Sorry I'm still a little confused.I think everyone in the media team is
amazing at what they do and I am happy to be a part of this with an awesome
bunch of people. I am the weatherman in the group and use my knowledge to
the best of my ability to let you guys know when the rain will come and
other weather issues. Besides that I have helped out other people with other
media issues. I have gotten on global revolutions live stream with a weather
report and recently I've done the same with thorins and have helped him set
it up a bit as well. I just am unclear how the media team as a whole views
thorins channel. I do not want to be distanced from the rest of the media
group by doing a weather report or something similar with thorins channel. I
want to continue to work with all of you great people. Maybe someone can
clear it up for me.
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 17, 2011, at 21:38, Mónica López <email@example.com>
I'm sorry I think you should talk to Thorin before telling this to people
cos is not true that channel represent only his views since there's a lot of
people that livestream also with that channel like dwayne, hero or me since
the very first day....
2011/10/18 Vlad T <firstname.lastname@example.org>
I spoke to some people on thorins team today and encouraged them to have a
meeting and discuss the hiarchy issue. I think what will happen is that
either that group adapts the same principles or a number of people working
with him will be joining us in the near future.
On Oct 17, 2011 9:22 PM, "Victoria Sobel" <email@example.com> wrote:
we should definitely have a meeting about this- thorin has been on the
agenda for many days, he and his livestream channel are hierarchal and
represent only his views which to this point have been privately funded. he
isn't a part of this media committee formally, and has claimed not to be
responsible to the general assembly, this precludes him from general
assembly funding- his channel merely benefits from having a user name which
implicates being a part of the working group. his stream unfortunately does
not conform to any of the principles set out but the livestream subcommitee-
which to this point have been posted to this google group. we will finish up
our livestream primer and faq and have it posted as soon as possible. we
would like very much for this issue to reach some sort of resolution.
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Lauri Faggioni <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
I'm confused to. We should have a meeting about this. I'm not sure who
is doing what now.
On Oct 17, 2011, at 7:47 PM, Nicholas Isabella wrote:
What do you mean not part of the GA? I'm a little confused
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 17, 2011, at 17:35, Lauri Faggioni <email@example.com> wrote:
Thorin, isn't with us for live stream. He is his own entity and does
not operate under the GA. So I'm not sure we should be sending people to
On Oct 17, 2011, at 5:01 PM, Abraham Heisler wrote:
We had a meeting today and Jazcer took minutes. He will type them
hopefully post them tonight. There were a lot of new faces, so we
introduced them to what was going on with media and asked them to
speak to David about photography, Thorin about Livestream, and
for edited content (OCCCUPY TVNY). There was no one there for radio.
The issue of security and clearance came up and I suggested that we
discuss it with the general group at tomorrow's 5PM meeting.
I think that Tuesday and Thursday's 5PM meetings should be for
everyone in media to meet and decimate information. Important
issues should be brought up and discussed then and we should urge
newcomers not to attend as they may feel a little lost. The 11AM
meetings should be for new people to come and get plugged in. We can
discuss more tomorrow, but those are my thoughts on how not to scare
new people away.
Mónica López Castilla
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