Subject: Re: [NYCGA Internet] OWS Watch
From: Judy Lapointe
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2011 22:27:19 -0400

take me off this email list - I will not help the 1% take over of this movement

On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 10:23 PM, Madiha Tahir <> wrote:
Hi Jodi,

While I understand the concern that gives rise to your idea, I'm deeply hesitant to endorse something like this. In some cases, it may be quite clear that it's sabotage; in many cases tho, such practices often become ways to police the movement and to exclude perspectives some don't like -often w/ consequences especially for points of view expressed by non-white, and/or working class folks. Hypothetically, for example, let's say an Afghan or an Iraqi or a Pakistani or anyone from the scores of countries the US is currently brutalizing comes to an #OWS protest w/ a "fuck the troops" sign - is that sabotage? Or those who express their rejection of the "we love you" sentiment towards the police that is quickly becoming a staple of OWS protests - is that person a saboteur?

So, I'm very hesitant to support a project like this.

My two cents.

Cheers -m

Sent on the go

On Oct 18, 2011, at 10:00 PM, twistedboots <> wrote:

> Hello,
> I'm thinking as the movement is growing we should start an OWS WATCH
> page. I will be more than happy to launch and control on FB, but not
> sure if I'll need GA approval or perhaps just get some feedback with
> your thoughts before going live.
> My idea is to have activists and supporters keep a watchful eye out
> for sabotage posts. I've seen a few already that have been growing
> momentum, but squashed by supporters of the movement by going to the
> original post page and sharing to picture/post on OWS supporter pages
> to correct any attempts to discredit the movement. No negative
> comments, no confrontations.  As in the instance of Ms. Silver's photo
> of the protesters from 2007 holding a sign "fuck the troops" and
> posting that it was OWS's Rally on 10/15.  Supporters gave no negative
> feedback just went to her page and simple shared and she still has no
> idea that over 1200 shares on that photo from her page were the doings
> of a counteraction.
> Problem solved si? But then I ran into this tonight with over 4,000
> views.
> The page I'd like to create is basically have reports of any sabatoge
> attempts from supporters on OWS Watch, where we can go to the page of
> the post and simple share in masses to divert any harm to our
> reputation. This all stems from a letter we received from a former Tea
> Bagger warning us of these types of act that participated in their
> collapse.
> Thoughts?
> Kind regards,
> Jodi ~