Subject: Re: [Ows_solutions] [NYCGA Internet] **Permabank Team Congealing**
From: Ori Livneh
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2011 12:13:30 -0400
To: Eric
CC: Daniel Goldin <dangoldin@gmail.com>, internet_working_group@googlegroups.com, ows_solutions <ows_solutions@freenetworkfoundation.org>, design@nycga.net

Hey guys,

I'd be ecstatic if you guys wanted to continue building on what I currently have up.

Marc: Devin showed me the wireframes on Sunday. I think they look awesome! It would be a very exciting product to build.

Dan: Flask is a very minimal interface between the Jinja2 templating system and Werkzeug, both of which are used widely in production. The data store behind the app I set up is redis, which scales very well. FWIW, I'm a Django developer by day, and I've been very impressed with Flask's leanness and speed.

Chaz: The source is up on GitHub here: https://github.com/atdt/marcel. I'll be adding comments throughout the day. I'm not familiar with aegir, but happy to take look.

Let me know what you guys think!



On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 11:39 AM, Eric <emacneil@riseup.net> wrote:
That looks great.

Looking at that example there's something else we've been forgetting.

OpenID!

Every Occupy site should have it.

Eric

On Thu 20 Oct 2011 10:40:03 AM EDT, Daniel Goldin wrote:
> It looks good! I prefer Python to PHP and feel it might be easier to
> work with especially with a larger group. A concern I have is that
> Flask is pretty new and I'm not sure if it's been tested on large
> production systems with large loads. Ori - do you have any thoughts on
> that?
>
> -Dan
>
> On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 10:26 AM, Marc Schaffner-Gurney
> <mws8726@gmail.com <mailto:mws8726@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     Ori, looks great! I'm working on UX design for the Permabank and
>     already came up with a set of
>     wireframes http://marcschaffnergurney.com/downloads/Permabank-Wireframes.zip
>
>     I'm thinking that since you already did the work to get this up
>     and running it might be easier for us to build on what you've done
>     and turn that into the Permabank.
>
>     Permabank team, thoughts?
>
>     -Marc
>
>
>     On Thu, Oct 20, 2011 at 1:50 AM, Ori Livneh <ori.livneh@gmail.com
>     <mailto:ori.livneh@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>         Hey guys,
>
>         I don't suppose I could persuade you to develop in Python? For
>         the past few days I've been working on building a gift / skill
>         exchange site for OWS. I built an app (called Marcel) which is
>         close to being ready for deployment. You can demo it here:
>         http://marcel.ep.io/. The code is up on GitHub at
>         https://github.com/atdt/marcel.
>
>         I'm sorry to leap out of the woodwork with this. I have a
>         newborn baby /and /I've been sick for the past few days, so I
>         simply haven't been able to keep up with meetings and emails.
>         I don't mean to step on anybody's toes. I'd be happy to put
>         this up as temporary solution and then point it to whatever
>         Drupal-based product you come up with. If people think this
>         could be a viable platform, I'll deploy an instance with OWS
>         branding and better explanatory texts.
>
>         I plan to add search, editing posts, and more fluid
>         login/logout -- it shouldn't take more than a day or two. I'd
>         also like to add RSS/Atom feeds.
>
>         The code is poorly documented right now but it's pretty clean,
>         and I'll be adding comments and documentation tomorrow. It's
>         built on top of Flask <http://flask.pocoo.org/>, which is very
>         simple to develop on. I would really love to continue working
>         on it, but I don't want to sabotage some kind of collective
>         undertaking. It really does sound like something like this is
>         needed urgently, though.
>
>         Thoughts?
>
>         Best, Ori
>
>
>         On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 11:11 PM, Evan Wagner
>         <evanawagner@gmail.com <mailto:evanawagner@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>             All,
>
>             Re: the meeting tomorrow- it's cancelled!  The necessary
>             conversations to get started occurred today, so we will be
>             able to get started right away.  Dana will be setting up
>             the git hub and redmine PM account coordinating the work
>             moving forward, in close alignment with myself... She will
>             be reaching out to the team I outlined at the beginning of
>             this string.  Please anybody else who wants to pitch in,
>             let us know...
>
>             Also, Keka, are you still on board for the visual design?
>             - I have also copied the design WG back on this list to
>             see if there are more people interested in making the site
>             super slick!!
>
>             peace,
>
>             Evan
>
>
>
>             On Oct 19, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Devin Balkind
>             <devinbalkind@gmail.com <mailto:devinbalkind@gmail.com>>
>             wrote:
>
>>             Dave, the author of that blog is a friend of mine, a
>>             number of people in FLO Solutions group member projects
>>             are on the shareable list and the communityforge
>>             developer is on our team. ;)
>>
>>             On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 4:07 PM, dave tarc
>>             <<mailto:dave.tarc@gmail.com>dave.tarc@gmail.com
>>             <mailto:dave.tarc@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>
>>                 I'm not able to contribute to the project at all
>>                 (doing other ows stuff with drupal) but wanted to
>>                 make sure that you were aware of all the tools on
>>                 these lists:
>>
>>                 <http://emergentbydesign.com/2011/03/22/10-projects-moving-us-towards-a-superfluid-economy/>http://emergentbydesign.com/2011/03/22/10-projects-moving-us-towards-a-superfluid-economy/
>>                 <http://shareable.net/blog/10-projects-to-liberate-the-web>http://shareable.net/blog/10-projects-to-liberate-the-web
>>
>>                 Particularly <http://communityforge.net/>http://communityforge.net/
>>                 which purports to be a LETS system implemented in Drupal.
>>
>>
>>
>>                 On Wed, Oct 19, 2011 at 12:00 PM, Sam Boyer
>>                 <<mailto:act@samboyer.org>act@samboyer.org
>>                 <mailto:act@samboyer.org>> wrote:
>>
>>                     i can't offer actual work time (too many other
>>                     #ows obligations, to say
>>                     nothing of client work), but if you folks haven't
>>                     already gone all the
>>                     way through planning & speccing the drupal
>>                     internals, i can definitely
>>                     help at that level.
>>
>>                     cheers
>>                     s
>>
>>                     On 10/19/11 9:24 AM, Evan Wagner wrote:
>>                     > Good Day All!
>>                     >
>>                     > So, it looks like the Permabank team is finally
>>                     coming together!  This
>>                     > is what I have so far:
>>                     >
>>                     > Product Managers: Evan Wagner (me), Devin Balkind
>>                     > Project Manager: Dana Skallman
>>                     > UX Designer:* *Marc Schaffner-Gurney
>>                     > Visual Designer: Keka Marzagao
>>                     > Developers: Matthew Slater (Back-end- C-forge
>>                     adaptation), Matthew
>>                     > Lepacek (Back/Front End), Dan Rassi
>>                     (Front-end), Chaz Cheadle
>>                     > (Back-end), Marc Pruce (Front-end)
>>                     > Server Coordination: Tom Gillis
>>                     >
>>                     > The plan is to use Better Means as the PM
>>                     software and git hub as the
>>                     > code repository, which Dana will be setting up
>>                     today in coordination
>>                     > with Tom.
>>                     >
>>                     > We are building this in Drupal, in case its not
>>                     already clear.  Anybody
>>                     > else who can jump on to help, please let us know.
>>                     >
>>                     > For all who can be there in person, let's meet
>>                     at Charlotte's Place
>>                     > tomorrow (Thurs) at 1:00PM for a kick-off
>>                     meeting.  All who can, please
>>                     > confirm that the time works.  For those who
>>                     can't, please respond with
>>                     > outline of specific availability so Dana can
>>                     reach out to coordinate
>>                     > tasks...
>>                     >
>>                     > Forget Wall Street, let's make our own bank!!
>>                     >
>>                     > peace,
>>                     >
>>                     > Evan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>             --
>>             Devin Balkind
>>             @devinbalkind
>>             <http://vitamindwb.com>vitamindwb.com <http://vitamindwb.com>
>>
>
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