Subject: Re: [OWS PR] Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: (OWS is over after Tuesday) Fwd: Drumming, Urine,
From: lmnop
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2011 04:03:20 -0400
To: Michael Oman-Reagan
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I had one last thought to share.

It occurred to me, during the grueling GA last week, the one that was ended because of the failure to respect process by the drumming group and those that advocate for them, that no one of the people present spoke up about how the constant drumming was affecting them personally. I found it rather strange, knowing that many of the people present are totally annoyed and irritated by it.

It made me wonder about the pressure to conform. It made me wonder about the safety of speaking one's true feelings in our community. It made me feel like something truthful was lacking.

I, too, didn't speak up. I definitely have mixed feelings about the drumming. It does irritate me at times. I have heard from many people who are professional drummers and musicians that upon arriving in Liberty Park for the first time, they were turned off by the drumming. A few Haitian drummer friends of mine described it as "bad vibes"

I think we need to have a day long GA about this, maybe, where we pause all other activity and give everyone a chance to speak their truth in this matter. I think it's doing the drummers a serious disservice to remain silent out of fear they will be hurt that we dont like it so much. Or worse, that they might get violent in some way towards you. Of course, there will be people who will give them the props they deserve for drumming during marches, but I feel it is imperative for them to hear the brutal truth from those that they share this occupation with, exactly how it is making us all feel. If, after hearing from everyone, they still continue to insist on inflicting their rights on us with no regards to ours, then we will know where their true solidarity lies

thank you all for allowing me to bend your ears

Lopi

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"No great art has ever been made without the artist having known danger."
Rainer Marie Rilke

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http://domesforhaiti.blogspot.com/





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