Subject: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] DO NOT STRIKE
From: Alexander Penley
Date: Sat, 29 Oct 2011 12:33:34 -0400
To: globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com

True- sorry, it was the group to which I referred in the same way if someone said "I heard from the ISO or RCP" but, again publicly, Urbaned- I apologize. 

On 29 October 2011 12:28, noia efrat <noia.efrat@gmail.com> wrote:
Alexander, so New York decided on a GS on the 2nd? Do you know of any groups publicising this?
A group of us were trying to (see above thread), but i think we did eventually consense that there isn't enough time to make an impact and use this idea in the best way. If we call for a GS and don't deliver -- and at this point, we wont, both because of the lack of time and the emergency situation at the park-- we will waste the credibility of this big idea and it will loose traction for the future.
That said, first of all, i dont think anyone but the person who suggested it is talking about "restorative justice" or any other pre-processed modes of action and ideology (Im sorry, i just have no clue what restorative justice means/entails and using that term makes me nervous. could you please explain?).
Also Alex, I understand your concern but not cool to call someone a troll on a public thread like that.





On Sat, Oct 29, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Alexander Penley <Alexander@penleygloballaw.com> wrote:
NYCGA did decide on a GS on the 2nd. Moveon-nothingtoseehere sent a minion. The discussion here should be media on nothing happening- not how a troll heard that this is a bad idea....


On 28 October 2011 17:08, Jason Hart <jcuddlefish@gmail.com> wrote:
For now, www.genstrike.org redirects to occupyoakland.org with no
further information being conveyed.

On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Victoria Sobel <victoria@showpaper.org> wrote:
> michael i understand what you are saying, but it differs from what the
> people on  the thread 'strike?' are saying- there is a call to action being
> planned. these threads should speak to one another, the fact that both sides
> are strongly advocating opposite imperatives is very dangerous.
>
> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 5:01 PM, Victoria Sobel <victoria@showpaper.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> there is no structure that helps us understand in detail the larger
>> implications of another GA's decisions- especiallly something this big; i'm
>> not sure the concept of a general strike (especially one in 5 days from now)
>> is something any of would be able to fully coordinate. honestly the break
>> down of passed proposals even within our park is already a huge bottleneck,
>> and there is obviously a huge issue relaying info within the park/between
>> occupies/inside and outside of the park
>>
>> its a nice thought that the website were making is simply in solidarity
>> with an action passed across the country- but let's be real if/when we start
>> supporting this action, OWS is complicit in the action- thats alright as
>> long as we own up to it and remain accountable. i'm personally not
>> comfortable with it
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:51 PM, Victoria Sobel <victoria@showpaper.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> i tend to think we should be really careful about trying to pull this
>>> thing together in such a short amount of time- i am confident we can do it
>>> in the 5 days but i'm sure we could do it better in 15
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:30 PM, Michael Premo <m.premo@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> we should certainly support.
>>>>
>>>> but we should be careful about calling on things we can't deliver on.
>>>> regardless of what whoever says. a general strike is a hugely complicated
>>>> idea.  let's focus on what we're good at OCCUPYING.  take some more space
>>>> and build to a MASS movement where we can organize and call for a mass
>>>> movement.  also nov 17 will be a day to make a dent in the economy that
>>>> could sow some seeds for people understanding the implications of a
>>>> "general" strike.
>>>>
>>>> if you're interested in a general strike and want to organize at your
>>>> work place or among your friends to make that happen, help in building
>>>> worker councils.  hit me off list for details.
>>>>
>>>> my two cents.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Premo
>>>>
>>>> c. 917.547.1292
>>>> http://www.michaelpremo.com
>>>>
>>>> http://housingisahumanright.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Steven Macchia <owsmediateam@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  if you would like  your thoughts heard I suggest voicing them at the
>>>>> GA.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Alexander Penley
>>>>> <Alexander@penleygloballaw.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Moveon should moveon, they do NOT speak for occupy and should stfu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2011 4:16 PM, "Urbaned" <urbanpubedreform@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> YOU GUYS SHOULD STOP RIGHT NOW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just had a 2-hour conversation with the director of moveon here in
>>>>>> Oakland. The so-called "organizer" of the strike is a hugely disgruntled
>>>>>> former-employee who managed to get many people fired because of his
>>>>>> belligerent actions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Strikes are 1940's. These days, we need to have non-violent training
>>>>>> and Restorative Justice sessions. Stop knee-jerk reacting, start thinking,
>>>>>> and focus on the 1% (not the 99%, who you are "striking against").
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>
>



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