Subject: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Fw: server/budget
From: andrew@thehumanchannel.org
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 14:25:41 +0000
To: "Vlad human alt tech cam occupy" <vlad@glassbeadcollective.org>, "globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com" <globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com>, internet_working_group@googlegroups.com

What does everyone think about the best server situation for us?
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From: Joshua Whalen <joshuafwhalen@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 10:20:24 
To: <andrew@thehumanchannel.org>
Subject: Re: server/budget

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AHHH! so your looking for an archival server. Cool. Use dreamhost. Call them , get the account open, and then mail me when that's done. I'll set everything up for you form there. I'll be happy to also link their dss server to ours. Ultimately, I'd like to get everyone in #Occupy who's running a video server to use dss so we can cluster all the #Occupy servers together. Since dreamhost will give you unlimited storage, and unlimited bandwidth, your 100+gb will be a drop in the bucket. Tell them who you are and what your doing and why. I wouldn't be surprised if they donated it.

You'll want to add a cgi  that uploads the footage to a folder, and gives it a name, then adds the name of the file to a list of url's. If you don't have anyone who can do the cgi, I can get you someone, or worst case, I can do it myself. That part is pretty trivial. 

I'd misunderstood what you were doing. I thought you were looking for a server for live video footage. What's meant by streaming is that instead of your computer downloading a file, and then playing it, the file is "streamed", frame-by-frame, with each frame playing as it is received from the server. This can be done live, or else it can be done with stored footage, like yours. In your case, I would imagine you'd want to have both a page where the footage can be download as separate files, and another where it can be watched in "streaming" format. Setting that up is trivial. The uploader is the only real work involved. 

Anything else?

Joshua

Joshua Whalen
+1 (646) 770-0490
joshuafwhalen@gmail.com

"Vision without action is a day dream,
Action without vision is a nightmare."
- -- Japanese proverb




On Nov 2, 2011, at 10:09 AM, andrew@thehumanchannel.org wrote:

In layman's terms, what is the function of this? Were looking for something to dump around up to 100gb at a time to a server where anyone else can come download said footage under creative commons. Will this do that? I'm confused about the use of the word "streaming" thank you!!!
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From: Joshua Whalen <joshuafwhalen@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:41:58 -0400
To: Andrew<andrew@thehumanchannel.org>
Subject: Re: server/budget

Footage can currently be dumped directly to www.occupyeverything.info. There is a sample output page at www.occupyeverything.info/media.html. You can get to it by going to the occupyeverything.info site, and clicking ows media streaming. To use the demo with quicktime broadcaster, you simply spec the name of the server and give your stream the name mystream, and then click on the dinosaur. you r stream should play.

As to adding additional capacity, the people I've been meaning to contact on that are www.dreamhost.com. They host dss servers as part of their standard $9 a month unlimited everything package. They're an employee owned company, so they're good people to work with. I have my  own resume site hosted there.  To see what  they offer, go here and click on the "Show more" icon. Very nice folks. They're in LA, and when you call them you get a human on the phone who's a native english speaker that actually uses their system, not a 3-ring binder bot in india. Nicest thing about them is unlimited disk space, unlimited bandwidth, unlimited everything for $9 a month. They're no where near as robust as panix, but they sure are cheap, and they're not bad at all.

I'm favoring DSS or QTSS for media streaming for the simple reason that it clusters very easily. setting up a distributed cluster of oodles of DSS servers is a simple point-and-click operation. I could have a hundred of them all relaying for each other in an hour. This is basically the setup Akamai uses for their rebroadcasting service, the largest in the world, and the one literally everyone in the corp world uses for their video streams. 

Anything else?

Joshua



Joshua Whalen
+1 (646) 770-0490
joshuafwhalen@gmail.com

"Vision without action is a day dream,
Action without vision is a nightmare."
-- Japanese proverb




On Nov 2, 2011, at 8:39 AM, Andrew wrote:

ALL,

WHere are we at with the ability to dump footage at the square?

If were at the same place we were at on sept 17th, let's add some servers into the budget.

Josh, can you recommend? I think Vlad already has an idea....
On Nov 1, 2011, at 9:48 PM, Joshua Whalen wrote:

Andrew, this is Joshua from the #OWS-Solutions working group.

I'd like to know what video server software are you using?

Thanks.

Joshua

Joshua Whalen
+1 (646) 770-0490
joshuafwhalen@gmail.com

"Vision without action is a day dream,
Action without vision is a nightmare."
-- Japanese proverb




On Nov 1, 2011, at 4:21 PM, Andrew wrote:

To: ALL WORKING GROUPS that Outreach, Educate, Coordinate, Act for Solidarity of the whole for the autonomy of the individual.

We're coming together to create video content. First is a general outline video of the entire movement to educate all, complete with succinct facilitation/ga/consensus information/reasons.

I already shot a facilitation training video that needs to be edited, Lisa Fithian's workshop, which can work for part of this project. We won't need to shoot more than another half a day or so for this, and try to be organized and inclusive when editing.

If anyone can help edit the workshop itself for me it will be a big help.

Here's a video "GA" from Atlanta of a really ironic and non-direct democracy/consensus process, which was ows in the beginning. (Why are they using the human mic if they have a real mic?)

Join our project organizer: https://www.pivotaltracker.com/projects/404611 - I added the media production project.

Let's test it out for our community's great need for a succinct and continuous narrative. All groups, track our progress on the google group also in case this fails. Forward an email to people to come join us in producing media. This is a trial of a system that we need that organizes needs and offers so that people can grow together.


Andrew





On Nov 1, 2011, at 1:09 PM, laura stout wrote:


From: Charlie <charlie.gonzalez@gmail.com>
To: Tamara Shapiro <tamarashap@gmail.com>
Cc: Kelley Brannon <kelley.brannon@yahoo.com>; maralena <maralena.murphy@gmail.com>; Ethan Buckner <ethanbuckner@gmail.com>; Michael Badger <ows@mbadger.com>; "suresh2323@gmail.com" <suresh2323@gmail.com>; "nacarty88@gmail.com" <nacarty88@gmail.com>; "sarahcoughtry@gmail.com" <sarahcoughtry@gmail.com>; "lcparke@gmail.com" <lcparke@gmail.com>; "fithianl@igc.org" <fithianl@igc.org>; "srcorbin@gmail.com" <srcorbin@gmail.com>; "rachelmialeone@gmail.com" <rachelmialeone@gmail.com>; Casey O'Neill <casey.oneill.is@gmail.com>; Ezer Vierba <ezer.vierba@gmail.com>; "drew@nycga.net" <drew@nycga.net>; Kobi skolnick <kskolnick@gmail.com>; "gmachado1219@gmail.com" <gmachado1219@gmail.com>; "christopherbrian@riseup.net" <christopherbrian@riseup.net>; "amc08@hampshire.edu" <amc08@hampshire.edu>; "isaacgsilver@gmail.com" <isaacgsilver@gmail.com>; Mario Dartayet-Rodriguez <mdrodriguez@mac.com>; "neliniwfp@gmail.com" <neliniwfp@gmail.com>; "amin.husain@gmail.com" <amin.husain@gmail.com>; "maxberger@mac.com" <maxberger@mac.com>; Vincent Levy <vincelevy@gmail.com>; ""dogstarmonkey22@yahoo.com"" <dogstarmonkey22@yahoo.com>; ""ezisette@yahoo.com"" <ezisette@yahoo.com>; ""marcomannone@gmail.com"" <marcomannone@gmail.com>; ""akelsie@gmail.com"" <akelsie@gmail.com>; ""\"Devin Balkind" <devin@sarapisfoundation.org>; Wiljago Jean Cook <wiljago@gmail.com>; Joel Feingold <levtermen@gmail.com>; "larbeiter@hotmail.com" <larbeiter@hotmail.com>; "gail@nyc.rr.com" <gail@nyc.rr.com>; "graceofharvest1@gmail.com" <graceofharvest1@gmail.com>; "allencraig@live.com" <allencraig@live.com>; "crepuscular.worker@gmail.com" <crepuscular.worker@gmail.com>; "travelerjosh@me.com" <travelerjosh@me.com>; "mediaincomplete@gmail.com" <mediaincomplete@gmail.com>; "tedwardhall@lghtsrc.org" <tedwardhall@lghtsrc.org>; "lovethanksgabrielle@gmail.com" <lovethanksgabrielle@gmail.com>; "gilescharle@gmail.com" <gilescharle@gmail.com>; "ows.dropbox@yahoo.com" <ows.dropbox@yahoo.com>; "andrew@thehumanchannel.org" <andrew@thehumanchannel.org>; "scottrocker28@yahoo.com" <scottrocker28@yahoo.com>; "josedellargo@yahoo.com" <josedellargo@yahoo.com>; "arloguthrie23@gmail.com" <arloguthrie23@gmail.com>; "occupyanthony@gmail.com" <occupyanthony@gmail.com>; "re_cowan@yahoo.com" <re_cowan@yahoo.com>; "joel.feingold@gmail.com" <joel.feingold@gmail.com>; "johnfreez@gmail.com" <johnfreez@gmail.com>; "desiree.joy.deloach@gmail.com" <desiree.joy.deloach@gmail.com>; "outlikealion@aol.com" <outlikealion@aol.com>; "faithinfreedom_09@hmamail.com" <faithinfreedom_09@hmamail.com>; "amity.paye@gmail.com" <amity.paye@gmail.com>; "owsshipping@gmail.com" <owsshipping@gmail.com>; "victoria@showpaper.org" <victoria@showpaper.org>; occupycallplanning@googlegroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 1, 2011 12:04 PM
Subject: Communications from NC & SC...

Hello all

This is Charlie from the Mobile Occupation (Occupy Within Tour). Just wanted to keep you in the loop with any communications being sent my way...it seems like there is a growing awareness for the need to send a team down to the other occupations - feedback is that it is very disorganized and they can use some help with learning how to facilitate a GA, etc.

Also, we are set to make an announce to the GA tonight - statement & minutes are on our website.  Looking to coordinate our proposal and begin to connect with other cities...  We are asking for your support...if you want to join the group we meet Monday, Wednesday & Friday @ 11am at 60 Wall.

Love
Charlie (917) 930-3329
occupywithin.us

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From: Debbie Hall <debbiehall13@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 10:18 PM
Subject: Hi from Charleston
To: occupywithin@gmail.com


Hey there,

Dallas said you guys were heading to Fla and I was hoping that you would be able to stop in Charleston, SC on the way.  I've been on occupywallstnyc livestream for about 3 weeks everyday and just went to our local GA meeting, which is every Thursday.  It was unorganized with a lot of duplication amongst committees (working groups) which I guess can go with the horizontal model - but one faction of the group wants to be violent from what I was told and broke off from the GA to discuss a direct action that may include that (I was hoping they just meant civil disobedience but I was told they actually want violence).  I think we really need a solid tethering to NYC to get this on the right track.  We could use your help if you can stop here.  It would need to be on a Thursday more than likely, but we could possibly organize outside those parameters if necessary.  It's a beautiful city with some great people and you're welcome to use my home as a base -  I have room to park the bus.

Thanks so much!

Debbie Hall (citizendeb)
843-276-5377
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From: General assembly Facilitation <facilitation.ga@gmail.com>
Date: October 24, 2011 12:26:55 PM EDT
To: owsfacilitation@lists.riseup.net
Subject: [owsfacilitation] Fwd: training/support request

Anyone want to take a trip to North Carolina?

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From: Callie Justice <justice.callie@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 10:48 AM
Subject: training/support request
To: "facilitation.ga@gmail.com" <facilitation.ga@gmail.com>, "Owsoutreach@gmail.com" <Owsoutreach@gmail.com>

Greetings from Durham, N.C.
We are struggling in the very early stages (maybe a month) of trying to build an OccupyDurham movement.  Things are quite challenging.  There was a lot of initial apparent energy which seems to have dissipated quickly.  Is there anyone there who we could bring down (providing transportation, housing, food) for a visit to train facilitation people in working with a GA approach/framework, and perhaps to help us digest our experiences so far and give us some support?
I'm writing as an individual at the moment and would appreciate responses from you all that I will then take to the group for further action.  There's a lot of good heart here, but we are floundering pretty severely at the moment.  It looks to me like the right help could make a big difference in how this unfolds.
Whether you have the resources to offer the kind of help I'm looking for or not, THANKS for all that you do!
With love and good wishes,
Callie




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