Subject: [NYCGA-IWG] Re: combine forces on liquid democracy / proxy voting system
From: Jackrabbit
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 05:12:31 -0800 (PST)
To: internet working group

PAER has already developed a voting application we hope to test as
soon as we get the hardware for it.

On Nov 9, 4:41 am, Ingvar Bogdahn <>
Hi again,

I heard that some people in NY started coding up a voting system, that
allows participatory, direct democracy, similar to those principles to
Is that true? If yes, could somebody please point me to that team? Maybe it
would be better to combine forces and work and improve existing things?
There already exist several such projects, two important ones that i know
of (another good one in france) that are already pretty well-thought-out
and stable. Why make up another new one? They are already in heavy use,
i.e. by a the "pirates", a new party in germany that kickstarted to almost
10% and they base themselves on the ideal of "liquid democracy". Several
other parties and dozens of associations use it, also some public
For more background on that, a working group fellow summed it up here

There are at least two such systems:

adhocracy: and in real life
(public german enquete commission "internet and digital society":)
"liquid feedback":
and   see the work of that pirate
party (german):

the systems themselves are of course completely translated in english, both.

what are your particular goals? I heard you want it to be decentralized? We
might find a way to adapt the existing ones. They both use sql, but we
might find a way to distribute I.e. some distributed file system, or there
are some NoSQL that speak limited sql and have Acid transactions.


PS: sorry for double posting, forgot some links.  Btw, is this the right
forum? is it ok that I post things like that here?