Subject: Re: [NYCGA-IWG] Re: combine forces on liquid democracy / proxy voting system
From: fragro
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2011 09:14:12 -0600
To: internet_working_group@googlegroups.com

Do you have any details on the voting application you developed? I am the developer of openassembly and I am interested in facilitating any experiments you want to try.

The issue is that we have to keep these experiments small until we develop a trust network to ensure the validity of the voting process.

We are in the process of outlining the fundamental concepts and the different proposals here.

http://wiki.occupyeverywhere.org/index.php/Global_Constitution

I encourage you to add voting methods, projects, or resources. We want to build a suite of decisioning tools that can filter together in a standardized way, as well as a trust network that is robust.

Frank Grove

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 7:12 AM, Jackrabbit <jackrabbitrocks@gmail.com> wrote:
https://www.nycga.net/groups/political-and-electoral-reform/forum/

PAER has already developed a voting application we hope to test as
soon as we get the hardware for it.

On Nov 9, 4:41 am, Ingvar Bogdahn <ingvar.bogd...@googlemail.com>
wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I heard that some people in NY started coding up a voting system, that
> allows participatory, direct democracy, similar to those principles tohttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_voting
> Is that true? If yes, could somebody please point me to that team? Maybe it
> would be better to combine forces and work and improve existing things?
> There already exist several such projects, two important ones that i know
> of (another good one in france) that are already pretty well-thought-out
> and stable. Why make up another new one? They are already in heavy use,
> i.e. by a the "pirates", a new party in germany that kickstarted to almost
> 10% and they base themselves on the ideal of "liquid democracy". Several
> other parties and dozens of associations use it, also some public
> institutions.
> For more background on that, a working group fellow summed it up herehttp://piratenpad.de/occuliquid
>
> There are at least two such systems:
>
> adhocracy:http://trac.adhocracy.cc andhttp://liqd.net/en in real life
> (public german enquete commission "internet and digital society":)  www.enquetebeteiligung.de
> "liquid feedback":http://www.public-software-group.org/liquid_feedback
> and  http://liquidfeedback.org/mission/   see the work of that pirate
> party (german):https://lqfb.piratenpartei.de/pp/area/list.html
>
> the systems themselves are of course completely translated in english, both.
>
> what are your particular goals? I heard you want it to be decentralized? We
> might find a way to adapt the existing ones. They both use sql, but we
> might find a way to distribute I.e. some distributed file system, or there
> are some NoSQL that speak limited sql and have Acid transactions.
>
> best,
> Ingvar
>
> PS: sorry for double posting, forgot some links.  Btw, is this the right
> forum? is it ok that I post things like that here?



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