|Subject: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Re: [OWS PR] [INFO] the Egyptian proposal went through the GA|
|From: Alexander Penley |
|Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 19:26:13 -0500|
hey guys all of your experiences are extremely relevant and i would love it if you wanted to try and type up some things or come to the info session on sunday at 10 in the atrium. peter i dont think youll be back yet but i woud love to voice some of your questions/experiences. we're currently doing our best to ensure that this is a safe, non-violent, informed/receptive trip- this will definitely involve alot of preparation in a very small window of time. there will be trainings/skillshares between the people selected in the weeks before the trip as well as 2 days of training when they get to egypt regarding the election monitoring process. we are looking for people with relevent skills/assets/experiences to take on the trip but of course have to remain completely open to the consensus process- there are a number of ways we are trying to vet the people nominated to go and ultimately the egyptians will review and make selections for the final decisions. again since you all seem to have first hand experiences in some of these areas i would love for you to voice them-this will be especially helpful in providing context for people who really want to go but might not fit the criteria. you can of course email me, but you can also cc maria who i helped pass this proposal with her email is firstname.lastname@example.org.
we're hoping that this is just the beginning of fruitful dialogues- if all goes well, we'll be in good standing to send more people down the road for the presidential election!
love you all,
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 6:49 PM, email@example.com <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
Thank you for this Peter. I want to echo his sentiments as well.
I've shot in conflict zones in Africa and can speak to some of the risks, particularly pertaining to women traveling alone with gear or in small groups in potentially volatile areas. Happy to share should anyone be interested.
Connected by a corporate tax dodger - aka Verizon Wireless. We pay-shouldn't they?
-----Original message-----From: Michael Premo <email@example.com>
To: PR working group <firstname.lastname@example.org>
Sent: Fri, Nov 11, 2011 21:11:08 GMT+00:00
Subject: Re: [OWS PR] [INFO] the Egyptian proposal went through the GA
Thanks peter I just want to echo everything on your list!
Even though we will be protected incredibly by our hosts and everything will be fine I can't emphasize enough that anyone interested in going highly assess their own street smarts/survival instincts, map reading, ability to be on your own if worse comes to worse.
I've been in some conflict zones and slums that have felt like conflict zones and I'd be happy to share with anyone interested.Michael Premo
From: "Peter Harris" <email@example.com>Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2011 15:38:42 -0500ReplyTo: firstname.lastname@example.orgSubject: RE: [OWS PR] [INFO] the Egyptian proposal went through the GA
I think this is a beautiful beautiful idea and I’m ALL “twinkly fingers” however the statement of “willingness to accept risk” is an understatement! This is something that should NOT be taken lightly.
For those that are accepted for this task there should be, in my opinion, some prior experience or knowledge of conflict/post-conflict environments.
Having been around the world and back I’ve seen firsthand how volatile these environments can be. Locals can be extremely hospitable or provoked quite easily.
“We” are sending “ambassadors” into a situation where if the elections do not go well could be the spark of another onset of violent reaction, not just from the police.
Will they know what to do?
How to get out as a group or even individually?
Have they ever even been out of the States before? (currently hold a passport)
Do they realize just how unhelpful US Embassies can be?
Do they speak multiple languages?
Do they know how not to dress like a tourist?
Do they have vaccinations up to date? (shouldn’t be an issue just details that should be considered)
Are prepared (physically & mentally) to be sent home on arrival or put in an Egyptian prison? (worst case scenario of course)
I have a million other questions that could be asked just to address their safety.
I’m not trying to rain on this parade at all! Just some food for thought, I know we have a lot of very intelligent people working on this and personally see this as an amazing act of solidarity.
If I can share my knowledge/experiences please let me know.
All the best
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