Subject: Re: [NYCGA-IWG] Re: [Ows_solutions] Project Proposal: Occupy Wall St The App (iOS/Android)
From: Dallas Carter
Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 18:07:17 -0500

Excellent point with regard to placing priority on "dumbphone" and voice based solutions ahead of those that require more costly voice/data plans and handsets.

The basic outline you've provided is great, and I can think of a couple of possible added features/tweaks offhand.

At this point, considering how much discussion there has been of difficulty in getting our message directly to the public and facilitation of real-time intra- + inter-Occupy communications, I'd say a basic phone tree & VM-to-email setup is a definite need. A regularly updated info line (maybe even toll free?) for each Occupy would reach a lot of people that don't have or aren't in the habit of using portable data services as well.

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 5:27 PM, <> wrote:
The reach into mobile is critical, however we caution you against
leading with smartphones, a strategy which will tend to exclude
those without the economic means to buy the devices / plans - often
those without the time or personal freedom to participate in OWS
events in - person.  That would tend to disadvantage those most in
need of the tool, we think.

We would instead recommend a mobile roadmap that starts from the
most widely available, data plan-friendly, and interoperable
services first.

Universal Dumbphone Solution:

1) Voice Portal: we are developing a prototype of a voice portal
system for #Occupy* as part of our Peoples' PBX project.  We have
done an initial use case/system mockup here:

Another alternative is SMS, though reliable & performative systems
tend to be have high variable costs relative to the cost to the
host of serving voice or a low-bandwidth xHTML site to users with
entry-level data plans.

High End Feature Phone Solution (eg. Brew Devices):

2) xHTML Web Site: since ~2007, if a device supports mobile Web, it
supports ~xHTML 1.0(ish).


3) Webkit (/ HTML5-ish) lowest common denominator Site (cross-
smartphone solution: iOS, Android, RIM, W7, Palm...)

4) Hybrid Application: using the Webkit core site, develop native
app shells for iOS, Android, RIM, etc as needed; majority of app
simply renders Webkit views, 'shell' takes advantage of native
capabilities like local storage, notifications, add'l security,
voting client, etc.

Even over time as the mobile sln gets more refined, we believe many
use cases / features will still more logically live in the lighter
weight, more easily updated & maintained, & independent of client
update Web hybrid zone.


As mentioned we are already working the voice portal concept in
Peoples' PBX.

We would be willing to contribute to systems design, UX, testing,
potentially server space & even devices. We may also be able to
rally a few folks to get their hands dirty code-wise but no

We hope you'll consider a modest / incremental / mass approach like
this - given who #Occupy* claims to be & represent, we at Planetary
think it's very important to place extraordinary priority attached
to those users most impacted by the greed and oppression we have
united to combat.

yours in solidarity,

On Fri, 11 Nov 2011 23:27:38 -0800 Matthew Lepacek
<> wrote:
>Tech ops is currently seeking mobile platform developers to begin
>development of such an application.  There is a wealth of ideas
>and methods
>of implentation available but a first step is collecting actual
>resources so we can determine a platform for development, with the
>hope of
>creating one framework-product that will work on most
>android/iphone/blackberry devices.  After we have gathered a list
>development-programmer resources we will conveign a series of
>meetings to
>hash out the best platform solution.  After a universal platform
>is chosen
>we can engage in the idea exchange of features and advisories.
>The goal at
>this time is not to change a single thing about GA process, but to
>compliment it 1:1 for our beta app.
>I'm attaching an example concept mock-up of a system proposed
>professional voting keypads at a cost of $13/ea.  We are getting a
>system of a few commercial audience polling systems from
>,, and but we are seeking
>to also
>develop our own unique smartphone solution using WIFI for the long-
>Part of this smartphone platform is ensuring that we have enough
>for everyone to participate, which will involve donations of older
>smartphones from the public.  Our hope is that the publics
>generocity will
>be suplimented by donations from manufacturers/retailers.  Those
>that have
>a compatible smartphone will be able to use it, but whose who do
>not--we wil make them readily available.  At this time there is no
>discussion as to whether this will be adopted by the GA, we merely
>want to
>present the option and develop it with the hopes of it being
>There are no guarantees.
>Anyone who has experience developing mobile applications please
>email me
>Matthew Lepacek
>On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:06 AM, Naqeeb Memon
>> Everyone -
>> I would like to propose that we build an iOS / Android app that
>will allow
>> Occupy Wall St (OWS) to be directly connected to the people and
>help grow
>> the movement.  Facebook is a great tool but a Facebook Post /
>Event don't
>> have the same reach as an app installed on a user's phone and
>tweets are
>> lost in the stream. Please review and provide any
>> feedback/requests/comments:
>> *Features*
>>    1. Allow Users to follow/participate in OWS events in their
>>    prospective cities.  We will begin with NY and expand to
>other cities.
>>    2. Notify Users of the next OWS planned protest through
>>    events etc.
>>    3. Notify OWS of arrests during the protest.  The user will
>be able to
>>    report an individual arrest or their own arrest
>>    4. Allow OWS to share latest updates/content/requests with
>users in
>>    their prospective cities.
>> *Next Steps*
>>    1. Reach out to the Media Work Group to get their feedback
>and feature
>>    requests
>>    2. Prototype iOS / Android functionality and look and feel
>with OWS
>>    Design.
>>    3. Find developers
>> Thanks,
>> Naqeeb
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Dallas Carter