Subject: Re: [GlobalRevolutionMedia] Fwd: Egypt
From: Vlad T
Date: Mon, 14 Nov 2011 00:33:27 -0600
To: globalrevolutionmedia@googlegroups.com
CC: jvanpraag@mac.com, Lauri Faggioni <lfaggioni@me.com>, movementbuildingny@googlegroups.com, jwedes@gmail.com

and our model is take the square - they are taking tahrir on friday.  where is ows going to be? in another assembly?

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 12:29 AM, Cari Machet <carimachet@gmail.com> wrote:
those are not the 'biggest concerns'
the biggest concerns have not been consented on yet

the deepest concern is FOR ME that we would be possibly legitimizing a shadow/junta government by being involved in an election process even though only peripherally

our model is our message - following our model is important

optics - who cares - not me - i care about reality 
   


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On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 1:20 AM, Justin Wedes <jwedes@gmail.com> wrote:
I think it's important to evaluate where information is coming from and separating what seem to be the two biggest concerns:

1) The political/optics implications in involving ourselves in this project

and

2) The difficulty working groups are having in selecting their representatives.

Just my $.02

-j

On Nov 14, 2011, at 1:12 AM, Cari Machet wrote:

listen when ever someone is using language like:

'Hopefully this will clarify some important details it seems are still unknown to many people in this working group and others.'
are you in our working group?
you do not know what i do not know 'still unkown"
i have never heard your name -
do i know you?
YOU are the unknown

your information is not correct here

we are working very hard and do not need people to put out misinformation
please check our website for ACTUAL minutes of meetings and details

++++i would appreciate a retraction of the information in this email ASAP++++++
i am not going to correct all the exact misinformation here
but i will say we are not presenting anything to spokes council -
spokes council is a still forming body and beyond that we only present proposals to the GA





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On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Alexander Penley <Alexander@penleygloballaw.com> wrote:

Perfect! Thanks all.

On Nov 13, 2011 7:12 PM, "Lauri Faggioni" <lfaggioni@me.com> wrote:


Begin forwarded message:

From: Joshua van Praag <jvanpraag@mac.com>
Date: November 13, 2011 7:09:57 PM EST
To: Lauri Faggioni <lfaggioni@me.com>
Subject: Egypt

Dear comrades

This Egypt delegation has fast become a very controversial issue, and it's clear to anyone who is a little informed as to the plurality of voices on the ground in Egypt, that a clarifying statement of the delegation's position on the upcoming parliamentary elections and possibly other matters besides, will need to be added as a friendly amendment to the pre-existing proposal.

The movement-building working group will hold an info session on Wednesday which all are encouraged to please attend. Hopefully this will clarify some important details it seems are still unknown to many people in this working group and others.

Movement-building will be taking the responsibility of crafting the amendment and will be taking ideas from anyone that wants to contribute.

On Friday, the friendly amendment will be presented to the Spokes Council.

In Solidarity

Josh

Joshua van Praag
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