From:   jemcgloin@verizon.net
Sent time:   Saturday, October 01, 2011 8:12:42 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] Declaration of the Occupation of New York City [official]
 

If I had time I would form a find-all-of-the-messaging-groups working group!  We now have a Journal that will also be putting out messages, I'm sure.  The email for the group that put out the 'grievances list' that was excepted by the GA is c2anycga@gmail.com.  They are not against modifying their language if they like your argument.  One group putting out demands is the open-source working group.  I'm not sure how to contact them, except that one of them is almost always at the GA since the first day.  I should know his name, but he has long hair, a goatee, and very colorful tights.  There are groups forming demands on the occupywallst.com and another one on nycga.cc 
If any of you can unify this it would be helpful.  If they started putting out demands that contradicted each other that would look bad, imo.
  
 John
On 10/01/11, Winter Siroco<wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote:
I do not have an answer about the group that meets about demands and points of solidarity, and that is a problem because we have many groups that are not connected with each other, and it is not clear that the documents that we are discussing are made available online. I have not seen the online version of the principles of solidarity. Perhaps it is posted somewhere, or was submitted to the mail list and I missed it.
I think that those of you interested in the economical aspects should setup a team ASAP.  
Cesar 

On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:
I'd love to. When and where is the group that is working on demands and points of solidarity meeting?


On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Winter Siroco <wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote:
Doug,

We should be able to modify our documents, and it would be wise to do so at this early stage. Indeed the points that you are raising are very important. I urge you to team with those interested and elaborate a modification that addresses the issues raised. 
Cesar


On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm very glad that we have this, and overall it's very good, but it's missing one big thing: there is no mention of how Wall Street created the economic crisis that destroyed millions of jobs, and how Wall Street was bailed out of its crisis by cutting vital public services! Any chance we can get that added? I realize that this list is not meant to include every grievance, but this is incredibly important and central to the damage done by Wall Street specifically, as opposed to capitalism as a whole. Frankly, we would not be occupying Liberty Park now if it weren't for the economic crisis - that's what set all this in motion. To not include it here seems like a major omission, and may make it harder to do outreach to the public sector unions that have started supporting us.

Doug


On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, gail zawacki <witsendnj@gmail.com> wrote:
Love it!


On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Cesar <wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Drew, perhaps a link to the live stream take of the GA discussion could be posted in the Web page together with the declaration. I am very glad about finally starting to have some definition. It was a great work, and we should continue to improve the process of elaborating our documents.
Cesar

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On Sep 30, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Drew <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote:






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