From:   Winter Siroco <wintersiroco@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Monday, October 03, 2011 5:34:41 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Cc:   David DeGraw <David@ampedstatus.com>
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Declaration of the Occupation of New York City [official]
 

As we start to elaborate our discourse, we should also improve its process. The Principles of Solidarity was about to omit specific mention to immigration, racism, etc. while stressing some other issues. It was added at the last minute, and it would have been quite a flawed document without it. We should improve our organization and process on the ground and online to be sure that all voices are heard.

Some of us mentioned yesterday that it would be a great idea to kick start the working group on Economics, and the call for the formation of this working group is planned to be raised today during the assemblies. This is about to be the most important theme for the Wall Street occupation, I guess and hope. We should learn from our mistakes of yesterday and bring together a diversity of motivated and knowledgeable people to deal with the economic problems and solutions.
Cesar  
 
   

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, sorry, i was quick to react, i apologize, yes, Declaration of
Occupation--can be strengthened, while discrimination in the workplace
is real, we can also show how race is central to the whole nature of
capitalist hegemony in the world and not a by product or footnote but
a global systemic problem..  I propose a working group on Economics.
We can also bring basic human rights questions to the fore, not just
domestic rights that have been usurped by Patriot Act and the
liquidation of our Civil Liberties--but we can take the opportunity to
fully implicate NATO/United Nations in our protest against wall
street, implicate Washington DC directly in our demonstrations, so
that the distance between Wall Street, Pentagon/ White House and the
United Nations/NATO is unveiled and exposed and made clear to all,
that we are addressing the heart of the matter, geopolitically, WE ARE
FULLY aware of our situation on the map. As victims of wall street we
must stand in solidarity with millions of victims abroad, our numbers
increase exponentially when we speak from this position. We can
elucidate on the points you made in the Declaration through a working
group, gather more information, put forward these issues for further
discussion and show the world that we can provide democratic solutions
in respect of our position in this global system... That we are
serious about taking back our economy from ruthless and stupid greedy
warmongers and we can arise at intelligent solutions. Obama was hired
to do this work but he does not work for us. We say food not bomb,
education not more prisons. end of global system of racism. we have
nothing to lose and a whole sustainable earth to gain.
In international solidarity,
Shaista


On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:
> I agree that those elements could be strengthened in that statement, but
> what you're talking about is the Declaration of the Occupation, not the
> Principles of Solidarity. The latter is set to be discussed at tomorrow
> night's GA and I believe does contain points related to immigration and
> imperialism. The text hasn't been circulated on the internet in draft form
> in order to avoid it being spread all over before the GA approves it. And
> the Declaration does have some mention of racism and imperialism, although I
> agree they could be augmented and strengthened:
>
> They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace based
> on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual
> orientation.
>
> They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have participated
> in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.
>
> Doug S
>
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:40 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> With all due respect,
>> Reading the Principles of Solidarity, it is disturbing to me that the
>> concern for the rights of animals is mentioned, but immigrants rights
>> are forgotten, and what about those stuck in guantanamo without due
>> process tortured worse than animals, these are human beings. What
>> happened to Civil Liberties--if we are to address democracy at all,
>> how about some basic liberal rights we have lost in the War on Terror.
>>
>> I am in need of more solidarity on the international front.
>>
>> Please if you can add this I would feel less disenfranchised from
>> these principles of solidarity. I gleefully worked the food booth, I
>> am so happy to be part of this movement, in  that we can negate the
>> logic of greed in our everyday practice, on the ground, we can show
>> this city that we can provide free food through donation, this is a
>> revolutionary principle and am so grateful that i can be part of this.
>> This is a principle of solidarity that is learned through the
>> occupation, that we are not "jobless frustrated youth with nothing to
>> do" that we are willing to work, and work hard for "revolution."
>>
>> Please consider adding this to the the Principles of Solidarity with
>> the poor, disenfranchised, with the destitute and the the victims of
>> WALL STREET. but we must never forget that there are worse victims
>> than us, the victims of the US gov't and its endless greed for power
>> and war.
>>
>> Goldman Sachs and the bankers run wall street-; wall street runs our
>> goverment, our goverment runs UN/NATO. There is no escaping this logic
>> of power of a failed world system.
>>
>> The WORLD is WATCHING US--millions of victims of Wall Street
>> everywhere in the world are expecting some good news from us, please
>> let us STAND in solidarity with the overwhelming democratic and
>> anti-austerity mobilizations from Tahrir to Wisconsin. It is
>> imperative that we, NEW YORKERS, immigrants, make a clear call to
>> stand in PRINCIPLED SOLIDARITY with global class war against war and
>> against the capitalist class based here in WALL ST. for victims far
>> worse than us in the global economy.
>>
>> Thank you and forgive the screaming,
>> Shaista Husain
>>
>>
>>
>> Shaista
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:20 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > Congratulations on this document, has it been approved by GA, ratified
>> > by consensus?
>> > Please may i add some feedback:  I was reading down the list and very
>> > excited by this point here, however, can we please make a case about
>> > the torture of political prisoners as well as animals... There is
>> > pelican bay hunger strike currently ongoing, as well as Guantano Bay
>> > torture waterboarding, etc as well secret detentions abroad (Bagram
>> > etc in Afghanistan) can we please add human beings, the end of Patriot
>> > Act and return of civil liberties in the same line as our concern for
>> > animals. The War on Terror is a racist war that has dehumanized the
>> > "enemy" most of whom do not even own a donkey. Please, considering the
>> > recent Troy Davis case, it is imperative to defend the rights of
>> > prisoners and denounce this unjust penal (domestic) and international
>> > military police state--even in the same line as with animal rights, if
>> > need be.
>> > Thank you,
>> > Shaista Husain
>> >
>> > "They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel
>> > treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices."
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Drew <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/
>> >>
>> >> spread this far and wide! Short code: http://nycga.cc/?p=780
>> >> print for saturday
>> >
>
>

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