From:   Doug Singsen <>
Sent time:   Monday, October 03, 2011 8:26:34 AM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow.

We need to set a time to meet and discuss this. I assume this should be done through the direct action committee. (The tactical committee seems to have become direct action, I believe.)

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 8:56 AM, Will Gauss <> wrote:
In my opinion, the First Amendment trumps city law.  This is exactly the kind of chilling law which the First Amendment's assembly and speech protections is designed to prevent.

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On Oct 3, 2011, at 8:28 AM, "Jackie DiSalvo" <> wrote:

It is illegal  for over 20 people to meet in a city park.


From: [] On Behalf Of Gabriel Johnson
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: [september17discuss] Liberty Park is filling to capacity. We need to plan for overflow.


I was in the process of typing up a reply, saw your email, you are probably right. Key points: Public parks do technically close, and I don't think Washington Square Park is an ideal location for other reasons. Is "direct action" the new name for tactical? And when + where are the meetings?




On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Doug Singsen <> wrote:

Since this is a sensitive security issue, we may not want to discuss this on the public listserv because it's undoubtedly under police surveillance. We should probably call a meeting of the direct action working group to discuss this in person.



On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, hextic <> wrote:

Currently, the NYPD has allowed Liberty Park to be occupied, and from
what I see the occupation there is stable.  Though, I am sure that
they are looking for any excuse to clear the park.  One such excuse
could easily become sanitation or health concerns due to crowding.
These excuses are very PR-friendly for the NYPD.

In order to expand the occupation we need to occupy another park,
preferably a larger one.  We should absolutely continue to use Liberty
Park as our primary demonstration site and rallying point, but it will
not house the entire 99%.  I propose that we explore how we might
assume control of Washington Square Park.  As public land, there is no
excuse for eviction that we are trespassing.  A physically large
presence in the park will make NYPD interference difficult because
they will have to wade through a sea of people to find the one person
who happens to be wearing a mask or more recently, has chained a
bicycle to something.  There are arches which we can triumphantly
march through and return through.  The open aerial coverage presents
multiple excellent media photography opportunities, capturing us as a
sea of people like the pictures we saw from Tahrir Square in Egypt.

This move would also serve to greatly expand the demonstration.  I
suspect that the Liberty Park demonstration is self-limiting.  People
will not willingly walk into a too-dense crowd of people.  So, the
physical dimensions of Liberty Plaza limits the number of occupants
naturally, potentially making the choice between whether a person
stays the night, ensuring participation the next day or not.

I do not propose that we occupy Washington Square Park immediately,
only that we begin planning for it.  On Wednesday, we will have
significant numbers of people which we will want to encourage to stay
by any and all mans.  I suggest that once the march returns to Liberty
Park, we use the People's Mic to announce that anyone who would like
to stay but cannot find space there, to form a march to Washington
Square Park to found a brand new encampment there.