|From:||shaista husain <firstname.lastname@example.org>|
|Sent time:||Monday, October 03, 2011 1:09:14 PM|
|Subject:||Re: [september17discuss] Re: Fwd: [Labor OWS] TWU Blasts City for NYPD commandeering MTA buses, drivers, for Bridge arrests|
Will Gauss, the tickets/fines and summons must be revoked, this will
establish a precedent for all other occupations now mobilizing across
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Will Gauss <email@example.com> wrote:
> The NYPD will have a very hard time justifying a total approaching 1,000
> arrests at a peaceful political demonstration. In many cases, the people
> being led away were not actually charged of a crime or even told "you are
> under arrest". In cases like mine, we were simply thrown to the ground,
> restrained, and left locked in a van somewhere before being turned loose.
> Even if there is no prior precedent for this, to guarantee our basic,
> fundamental civil liberties and prevent such atrocities from being attempted
> in the future we must establish this precedent.
> Sent from my iPhone
> On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Doug Singsen <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> That seems like a huge stretch legally. Even if the violations are
> overturned, I seriously doubt that the arrests could be legally found to be
> kidnapping, in which case the MTA employees would end up losing their jobs
> for refusing.
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Will Gauss <email@example.com> wrote:
>> IANAL, but provisions of a contract which require violation of the law are
>> unenforceable. Terminating their employment for refusing to kidnap
>> innocents may well put the city in breach of contract.
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Doug Singsen <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
>> I was told no - that they would be fired if they refused - by a TWU
>> staffer. But the union can put political pressure on the NYPD and mayor.
>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, hextic <email@example.com> wrote:
>>> Would these bus operators have any standing refusing to perform an
>>> illegal action and refusing to become an accomplice in what is
>>> essentially 700 counts of kidnapping and assault?
>>> On Oct 3, 9:53 am, Doug Singsen <dougsing...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> > From: acpolla...@juno.com <acpolla...@juno.com>
>>> > Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 9:45 AM
>>> > Subject: [Labor OWS] TWU Blasts City for NYPD commandeering MTA buses,
>>> > drivers, for Bridge arrests
>>> > To: firstname.lastname@example.org
>>> > This is huge. TWU's response to this outrage is great.
>>> > Notice the cops got MTA bosses to order drivers to drive the
>>> > commandeered
>>> > buses.
>>> > ---------- Original Message ----------
>>> > From: Dan DiMaggio
>>> > To: acpolla...@gmail.com
>>> > Subject:TWU Blasts City for Putting Occupy Wall St. Arrestees on Buses
>>> > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:36:47 -0400
>>> > "The Transport Workers
>>> > Union will go to court Monday to try to stop the city from forcing bus
>>> > drivers to
>>> > transport Wall Street protesters arrested by the NYPD, the Daily News
>>> > has
>>> > learned...
>>> > "TWU Local 100 supports the protesters on Wall Street and takes great
>>> > offense that the mayor and NYPD have ordered operators to transport
>>> > citizens
>>> > who were exercising their constitutional right to protest - and
>>> > shouldn't
>>> > have been arrested in the first place," Samuelsen said Sunday night.
>>> > Full:http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/03/2011-10-03_twu_blasts_...
>>> > ________________________________________________
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