From:   shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Monday, October 03, 2011 1:09:14 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Re: Fwd: [Labor OWS] TWU Blasts City for NYPD commandeering MTA buses, drivers, for Bridge arrests
 

Will Gauss, the tickets/fines and summons must be revoked, this will

establish a precedent for all other occupations now mobilizing across

the US.

 

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 11:05 AM, Will Gauss <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote:

> The NYPD will have a very hard time justifying a total approaching 1,000

> arrests at a peaceful political demonstration.  In many cases, the people

> being led away were not actually charged of a crime or even told "you are

> under arrest". In cases like mine, we were simply thrown to the ground,

> restrained, and left locked in a van somewhere before being turned loose.

> Even if there is no prior precedent for this, to guarantee our basic,

> fundamental civil liberties and prevent such atrocities from being attempted

> in the future we must establish this precedent.

>

> Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:49 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> That seems like a huge stretch legally. Even if the violations are

> overturned, I seriously doubt that the arrests could be legally found to be

> kidnapping, in which case the MTA employees would end up losing their jobs

> for refusing.

>

> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Will Gauss <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> IANAL, but provisions of a contract which require violation of the law are

>> unenforceable.  Terminating their employment for refusing to kidnap

>> innocents may well put the city in breach of contract.

>>

>> Sent from my iPhone

>> On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:28 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> I was told no - that they would be fired if they refused - by a TWU

>> staffer. But the union can put political pressure on the NYPD and mayor.

>>

>> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM, hextic <willgauss@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> Would these bus operators have any standing refusing to perform an

>>> illegal action and refusing to become an accomplice in what is

>>> essentially 700 counts of kidnapping and assault?

>>>

>>> On Oct 3, 9:53 am, Doug Singsen <dougsing...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------

>>> > From: acpolla...@juno.com <acpolla...@juno.com>

>>> > Date: Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 9:45 AM

>>> > Subject: [Labor OWS] TWU Blasts City for NYPD commandeering MTA buses,

>>> > drivers, for Bridge arrests

>>> > To: labor-outreach-committee@googlegroups.com

>>> >

>>> > This is huge. TWU's response to this outrage is great.

>>> > Notice the cops got MTA bosses to order drivers to drive the

>>> > commandeered

>>> > buses.

>>> >

>>> > ---------- Original Message ----------

>>> > From: Dan DiMaggio

>>> > To: acpolla...@gmail.com

>>> > Subject:TWU Blasts City for Putting Occupy Wall St. Arrestees on Buses

>>> > Date: Mon, 3 Oct 2011 09:36:47 -0400

>>> >

>>> > "The Transport Workers

>>> > Union will go to court Monday to try to stop the city from forcing bus

>>> > drivers to

>>> > transport Wall Street protesters arrested by the NYPD, the Daily News

>>> > has

>>> > learned...

>>> > "TWU Local 100 supports the protesters on Wall Street and takes great

>>> > offense that the mayor and NYPD have ordered operators to transport

>>> > citizens

>>> > who were exercising their constitutional right to protest - and

>>> > shouldn't

>>> > have been arrested in the first place," Samuelsen said Sunday night.

>>> >

>>> > Full:http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2011/10/03/2011-10-03_twu_blasts_...

>>> > ________________________________________________

>

>

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