From:   shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Monday, October 03, 2011 3:01:22 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Declaration of the Occupation of New York City [official]
 

May we call for this new group Economics or Global Democracy (named

after your statement on Global Democracy, in last night;s GA) can we

call the meeting on Tuesday at 3pm? or any time you feel... many many

folks in the GA have expressed their need to join a group like this.

Please lead the way.

in solidarity,

shaista

 

On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Winter Siroco <wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote:

> As we start to elaborate our discourse, we should also improve its process.

> The Principles of Solidarity was about to omit specific mention to

> immigration, racism, etc. while stressing some other issues. It was added at

> the last minute, and it would have been quite a flawed document without it.

> We should improve our organization and process on the ground and online to

> be sure that all voices are heard.

> Some of us mentioned yesterday that it would be a great idea to kick start

> the working group on Economics, and the call for the formation of this

> working group is planned to be raised today during the assemblies. This is

> about to be the most important theme for the Wall Street occupation, I guess

> and hope. We should learn from our mistakes of yesterday and bring together

> a diversity of motivated and knowledgeable people to deal with the economic

> problems and solutions.

> Cesar

>

>

> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 10:47 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>

> wrote:

>>

>> Yes, sorry, i was quick to react, i apologize, yes, Declaration of

>> Occupation--can be strengthened, while discrimination in the workplace

>> is real, we can also show how race is central to the whole nature of

>> capitalist hegemony in the world and not a by product or footnote but

>> a global systemic problem..  I propose a working group on Economics.

>> We can also bring basic human rights questions to the fore, not just

>> domestic rights that have been usurped by Patriot Act and the

>> liquidation of our Civil Liberties--but we can take the opportunity to

>> fully implicate NATO/United Nations in our protest against wall

>> street, implicate Washington DC directly in our demonstrations, so

>> that the distance between Wall Street, Pentagon/ White House and the

>> United Nations/NATO is unveiled and exposed and made clear to all,

>> that we are addressing the heart of the matter, geopolitically, WE ARE

>> FULLY aware of our situation on the map. As victims of wall street we

>> must stand in solidarity with millions of victims abroad, our numbers

>> increase exponentially when we speak from this position. We can

>> elucidate on the points you made in the Declaration through a working

>> group, gather more information, put forward these issues for further

>> discussion and show the world that we can provide democratic solutions

>> in respect of our position in this global system... That we are

>> serious about taking back our economy from ruthless and stupid greedy

>> warmongers and we can arise at intelligent solutions. Obama was hired

>> to do this work but he does not work for us. We say food not bomb,

>> education not more prisons. end of global system of racism. we have

>> nothing to lose and a whole sustainable earth to gain.

>> In international solidarity,

>> Shaista

>>

>>

>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:51 PM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>

>> wrote:

>> > I agree that those elements could be strengthened in that statement, but

>> > what you're talking about is the Declaration of the Occupation, not the

>> > Principles of Solidarity. The latter is set to be discussed at tomorrow

>> > night's GA and I believe does contain points related to immigration and

>> > imperialism. The text hasn't been circulated on the internet in draft

>> > form

>> > in order to avoid it being spread all over before the GA approves it.

>> > And

>> > the Declaration does have some mention of racism and imperialism,

>> > although I

>> > agree they could be augmented and strengthened:

>> >

>> > They have perpetuated inequality and discrimination in the workplace

>> > based

>> > on age, the color of one’s skin, sex, gender identity and sexual

>> > orientation.

>> >

>> > They have perpetuated colonialism at home and abroad. They have

>> > participated

>> > in the torture and murder of innocent civilians overseas.

>> >

>> > Doug S

>> >

>> >

>> > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 9:40 PM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>

>> > wrote:

>> >>

>> >> With all due respect,

>> >> Reading the Principles of Solidarity, it is disturbing to me that the

>> >> concern for the rights of animals is mentioned, but immigrants rights

>> >> are forgotten, and what about those stuck in guantanamo without due

>> >> process tortured worse than animals, these are human beings. What

>> >> happened to Civil Liberties--if we are to address democracy at all,

>> >> how about some basic liberal rights we have lost in the War on Terror.

>> >>

>> >> I am in need of more solidarity on the international front.

>> >>

>> >> Please if you can add this I would feel less disenfranchised from

>> >> these principles of solidarity. I gleefully worked the food booth, I

>> >> am so happy to be part of this movement, in  that we can negate the

>> >> logic of greed in our everyday practice, on the ground, we can show

>> >> this city that we can provide free food through donation, this is a

>> >> revolutionary principle and am so grateful that i can be part of this.

>> >> This is a principle of solidarity that is learned through the

>> >> occupation, that we are not "jobless frustrated youth with nothing to

>> >> do" that we are willing to work, and work hard for "revolution."

>> >>

>> >> Please consider adding this to the the Principles of Solidarity with

>> >> the poor, disenfranchised, with the destitute and the the victims of

>> >> WALL STREET. but we must never forget that there are worse victims

>> >> than us, the victims of the US gov't and its endless greed for power

>> >> and war.

>> >>

>> >> Goldman Sachs and the bankers run wall street-; wall street runs our

>> >> goverment, our goverment runs UN/NATO. There is no escaping this logic

>> >> of power of a failed world system.

>> >>

>> >> The WORLD is WATCHING US--millions of victims of Wall Street

>> >> everywhere in the world are expecting some good news from us, please

>> >> let us STAND in solidarity with the overwhelming democratic and

>> >> anti-austerity mobilizations from Tahrir to Wisconsin. It is

>> >> imperative that we, NEW YORKERS, immigrants, make a clear call to

>> >> stand in PRINCIPLED SOLIDARITY with global class war against war and

>> >> against the capitalist class based here in WALL ST. for victims far

>> >> worse than us in the global economy.

>> >>

>> >> Thank you and forgive the screaming,

>> >> Shaista Husain

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> Shaista

>> >>

>> >> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:20 PM, shaista husain

>> >> <shaistahusain@gmail.com>

>> >> wrote:

>> >> > Congratulations on this document, has it been approved by GA,

>> >> > ratified

>> >> > by consensus?

>> >> > Please may i add some feedback:  I was reading down the list and very

>> >> > excited by this point here, however, can we please make a case about

>> >> > the torture of political prisoners as well as animals... There is

>> >> > pelican bay hunger strike currently ongoing, as well as Guantano Bay

>> >> > torture waterboarding, etc as well secret detentions abroad (Bagram

>> >> > etc in Afghanistan) can we please add human beings, the end of

>> >> > Patriot

>> >> > Act and return of civil liberties in the same line as our concern for

>> >> > animals. The War on Terror is a racist war that has dehumanized the

>> >> > "enemy" most of whom do not even own a donkey. Please, considering

>> >> > the

>> >> > recent Troy Davis case, it is imperative to defend the rights of

>> >> > prisoners and denounce this unjust penal (domestic) and international

>> >> > military police state--even in the same line as with animal rights,

>> >> > if

>> >> > need be.

>> >> > Thank you,

>> >> > Shaista Husain

>> >> >

>> >> > "They have profited off of the torture, confinement, and cruel

>> >> > treatment of countless animals, and actively hide these practices."

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> >

>> >> > On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 5:30 AM, Drew <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote:

>> >> >>

>> >> >>

>> >> >> http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/

>> >> >>

>> >> >> spread this far and wide! Short code: http://nycga.cc/?p=780

>> >> >> print for saturday

>> >> >

>> >

>> >

>

>

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