From:   shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:41:04 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] Principles of Solidarity.
 

HI when is there a meeting on discussing the draft of "Principles of

Solidarity" was asking around for several days..

thanks,

Shaista

 

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:51 PM, <jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote:

> Could you possibly post it on the website, or at least on here, so that

> people can read it?  Is it an updated version of the "principles of

> solidarity" that was on line?  We have at least five groups working on

> messages and it is almost impossible to find them or what they are working

> on.  There is a demands list on occupywallst.com but when I tried to comment

> it wouldn't take my comment.

> We passed a list of grievances on Thursday, and I happened to be there, but

> it was the first I had heard of the document.  The open source group is

> working on something, but I can't find them since Thursday night.  Shouldn't

> the open source group be available on line?

> I'm glad to have almost any message to the world, but the whole point of

> waiting to have a message was so that everyone could have input, and even

> though I am on line 4 hours a day, and there two nights a week, I feel like

> I have very little input (not that I should have any more than anyone

> else).

> Is one of the principles "transparency?"

> I'm not as upset as this email might make me sound.  I love our process and

> I know these issues will be worked out, but talking about the issues is part

> of the process.  So I am just aksing that all of you messaging groups try a

> little harder to communicate with the rest of us and each other.

> Thanks, John McG

>

> On 10/02/11, Amin Husain<amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:

> No

>

> On Oct 2, 2011, at 6:35 PM, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:

>

> Is it on the website?

>

>

> On 10/02/11, Amin Husain<amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:

> Finalized the third iteration.  On agenda tomorrow night.

>

> On Oct 2, 2011, at 4:30 PM, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:

>

> Ok thats good.  What happened?

>

>

> On 10/02/11, Amin Husain<amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:

> There was no demands meeting.

> There was a principles of solidarity meeting.

>

> On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:19 AM, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:

>

> I am wondering if you guys ever met on the demands thing, and if you did

> what you talked about.

> John

>

>

> On 10/01/11, Doug Singsen<dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Where is the meeting?

>

> Sent from my phone

>

> On Oct 1, 2011 9:25 AM, "Amin Husain" <amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> Sounds good.  1:30

>>

>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> that would be great. can we make the meeting at 1:30?

>>>

>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Amin Husain <amin.husain@gmail.com>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> I am not sure.  We can meet today in the afternoon before the march

>>>> after 12, if you and others are free.  I could also explain how this fits

>>>> into the demands discussion that is on-going and how it's evolving.

>>>>

>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> when is the group's next meeting?

>>>>>

>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Amin Husain <amin.husain@gmail.com>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> The working group on principles of solidarity has the document printed

>>>>>> to be put before the GA to discuss and reach consensus.  If time permits,

>>>>>> that may be today.

>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> I'd love to. When and where is the group that is working on demands

>>>>>>> and points of solidarity meeting?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Winter Siroco

>>>>>>> <wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Doug,

>>>>>>>> We should be able to modify our documents, and it would be wise to

>>>>>>>> do so at this early stage. Indeed the points that you are raising are very

>>>>>>>> important. I urge you to team with those interested and elaborate a

>>>>>>>> modification that addresses the issues raised.

>>>>>>>> Cesar

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Doug Singsen

>>>>>>>> <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> I'm very glad that we have this, and overall it's very good, but

>>>>>>>>> it's missing one big thing: there is no mention of how Wall Street created

>>>>>>>>> the economic crisis that destroyed millions of jobs, and how Wall Street was

>>>>>>>>> bailed out of its crisis by cutting vital public services! Any chance we can

>>>>>>>>> get that added? I realize that this list is not meant to include every

>>>>>>>>> grievance, but this is incredibly important and central to the damage done

>>>>>>>>> by Wall Street specifically, as opposed to capitalism as a whole. Frankly,

>>>>>>>>> we would not be occupying Liberty Park now if it weren't for the economic

>>>>>>>>> crisis - that's what set all this in motion. To not include it here seems

>>>>>>>>> like a major omission, and may make it harder to do outreach to the public

>>>>>>>>> sector unions that have started supporting us.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Doug

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, gail zawacki

>>>>>>>>> <witsendnj@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Love it!

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Cesar <wintersiroco@gmail.com>

>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Drew, perhaps a link to the live stream take of the GA

>>>>>>>>>>> discussion could be posted in the Web page together with the declaration. I

>>>>>>>>>>> am very glad about finally starting to have some definition. It was a great

>>>>>>>>>>> work, and we should continue to improve the process of elaborating our

>>>>>>>>>>> documents.

>>>>>>>>>>> Cesar

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from phone

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Drew <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> spread this far and wide! Short code: http://nycga.cc/?p=780

>>>>>>>>>>> print for saturday

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

>>

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