From:   shaistahusain@gmail.com
Sent time:   Wednesday, October 05, 2011 8:47:00 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] Principles of Solidarity.
 

Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>
Sender: september17@googlegroups.com
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 10:42:11 -0400
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Subject: Re: Re: [september17discuss] Principles of Solidarity.

It was supposed to be presented to the GA last night for approval. I'd love to hear how that went.

On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 10:41 AM, shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com> wrote:
HI when is there a meeting on discussing the draft of "Principles of
Solidarity" was asking around for several days..
thanks,
Shaista

On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:51 PM, �<jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote:
> Could you possibly post it on the website, or at least on here, so that
> people can read it?� Is it an updated version of the "principles of
> solidarity" that was on line?� We have at least five groups working on
> messages and it is�almost impossible to find them or what they are working
> on.� There is a demands list on occupywallst.com but when I tried to comment
> it wouldn't take my comment.
> We passed a list of grievances on Thursday, and I happened to be there, but
> it was the first I had heard of the document.� The open source group is
> working on something, but I can't find them since Thursday night.� Shouldn't
> the open source group be available on line?
> I'm glad to have almost any message to the world, but the whole point of
> waiting to have a message was so that everyone could have input, and even
> though I am on line 4 hours a day, and there two nights a week, I feel like
> I have very little input (not that I should have any more than anyone
> else).
> Is one of the principles "transparency?"
> I'm not as upset as this email�might make me sound. �I love our process and
> I know these issues will be worked out, but talking about the issues is part
> of the process.� So I am just aksing that all of you messaging groups try a
> little harder to communicate with the rest of us and each other.
> Thanks, John McG
>
> On 10/02/11, Amin Husain<amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:
> No
>
> On Oct 2, 2011, at 6:35 PM, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:
>
> Is it on the website?
>
>
> On 10/02/11, Amin Husain<amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:
> Finalized the third iteration. �On agenda tomorrow night.
>
> On Oct 2, 2011, at 4:30 PM, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:
>
> Ok thats good.� What happened?
>
>
> On 10/02/11, Amin Husain<amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:
> There was no demands meeting.
> There was a principles of solidarity meeting.
>
> On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:19 AM, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:
>
> I am wondering if you guys ever met on the demands thing, and if you did
> what you talked about.
> John
>
>
> On 10/01/11, Doug Singsen<dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Where is the meeting?
>
> Sent from my phone
>
> On Oct 1, 2011 9:25 AM, "Amin Husain" <amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sounds good. �1:30
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> that would be great. can we make the meeting at 1:30?
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Amin Husain <amin.husain@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure. �We can meet today in the afternoon before the march
>>>> after 12, if you and others are free. �I could also explain how this fits
>>>> into the demands discussion that is on-going and how it's evolving.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> when is the group's next meeting?
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Amin Husain <amin.husain@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The working group on principles of solidarity has the document printed
>>>>>> to be put before the GA to discuss and reach consensus. �If time permits,
>>>>>> that may be today.
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd love to. When and where is the group that is working on demands
>>>>>>> and points of solidarity meeting?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Winter Siroco
>>>>>>> <wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Doug,
>>>>>>>> We should be able to modify our documents, and it would be wise to
>>>>>>>> do so at this early stage. Indeed the points that you are raising are very
>>>>>>>> important. I urge you to team with those interested and elaborate a
>>>>>>>> modification that addresses the issues raised.
>>>>>>>> Cesar
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Doug Singsen
>>>>>>>> <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'm very glad that we have this, and overall it's very good, but
>>>>>>>>> it's missing one big thing: there is no mention of how Wall Street created
>>>>>>>>> the economic crisis that destroyed millions of jobs, and how Wall Street was
>>>>>>>>> bailed out of its crisis by cutting vital public services! Any chance we can
>>>>>>>>> get that added? I realize that this list is not meant to include every
>>>>>>>>> grievance, but this is incredibly important and central to the damage done
>>>>>>>>> by Wall Street specifically, as opposed to capitalism as a whole. Frankly,
>>>>>>>>> we would not be occupying Liberty Park now if it weren't for the economic
>>>>>>>>> crisis - that's what set all this in motion. To not include it here seems
>>>>>>>>> like a major omission, and may make it harder to do outreach to the public
>>>>>>>>> sector unions that have started supporting us.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Doug
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, gail zawacki
>>>>>>>>> <witsendnj@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Love it!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Cesar <wintersiroco@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Drew, perhaps a link to the live stream take of the GA
>>>>>>>>>>> discussion could be posted in the Web page together with the declaration. I
>>>>>>>>>>> am very glad about finally starting to have some definition. It was a great
>>>>>>>>>>> work, and we should continue to improve the process of elaborating our
>>>>>>>>>>> documents.
>>>>>>>>>>> Cesar
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from phone
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Drew <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> spread this far and wide! Short code:�http://nycga.cc/?p=780
>>>>>>>>>>> print for saturday
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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