From:   shaista husain <shaistahusain@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Friday, October 07, 2011 4:08:58 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: Re: Re: [september17discuss] Principles of Solidarity.
 

We need an official media team to address the press (diverse team

multicultural not all white men thanks!! ). I am sure there is one,

but we need the articulate speakers to express the GA official stance

on all things passed by our collective body. THis is not happening.

Get more discussion in the media about what has been passed, what is

being discussed....what is on the floor.

Also, people can speculate all they want but most of the progressive

media who have sought out people of color to interview, are not part

of this media team, and these people have been voicing their concerns

openly about the lack of inclusiveness. This is a serious flaw that

undermines everything on happening on the ground. i have collected

all those articles, the people they have interviewed (who are not part

of any working group in the GA) and this is needs to be remedied

immediately. There lies the problem of vision and strategy. Why we

need one.

Can we get a more sophisticated media team who can re-iterate the

Declaration of Occupation, the Principles of Solidarity and the

structure of our democratic process more clearly to the media.

 

 

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 5:33 PM, <jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote:

>  Most of the press hasn't even figured out that we have a Declaration of the

> Occupation yet.  And most of the policies being discussed are leaking right

> off of our protest signs if they actually tried to read them.  So I

> agree.  This should be a transparent process with as much input from the GA

> as possible.

>

>

> On 10/07/11, Winter Siroco<wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote:

> John, I am told that the reason why the documents are not posted in the

> group discussion is that it could leak to the press prematurely. It is true,

> but I think that such policy should be revised. We should practice open

> source despite the problems that it entails.

> Cesar

> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:51 PM, <jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote:

>>

>> Could you possibly post it on the website, or at least on here, so that

>> people can read it?  Is it an updated version of the "principles of

>> solidarity" that was on line?  We have at least five groups working on

>> messages and it is almost impossible to find them or what they are working

>> on.  There is a demands list on occupywallst.com but when I tried to comment

>> it wouldn't take my comment.

>> We passed a list of grievances on Thursday, and I happened to be there,

>> but it was the first I had heard of the document.  The open source group is

>> working on something, but I can't find them since Thursday night.  Shouldn't

>> the open source group be available on line?

>> I'm glad to have almost any message to the world, but the whole point of

>> waiting to have a message was so that everyone could have input, and even

>> though I am on line 4 hours a day, and there two nights a week, I feel like

>> I have very little input (not that I should have any more than anyone

>> else).

>> Is one of the principles "transparency?"

>> I'm not as upset as this email might make me sound.  I love our process

>> and I know these issues will be worked out, but talking about the issues is

>> part of the process.  So I am just aksing that all of you messaging groups

>> try a little harder to communicate with the rest of us and each other.

>> Thanks, John McG

>>

>> On 10/02/11, Amin Husain<amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:

>> No

>>

>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 6:35 PM, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:

>>

>> Is it on the website?

>>

>>

>> On 10/02/11, Amin Husain<amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Finalized the third iteration.  On agenda tomorrow night.

>>

>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 4:30 PM, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:

>>

>> Ok thats good.  What happened?

>>

>>

>> On 10/02/11, Amin Husain<amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:

>> There was no demands meeting.

>> There was a principles of solidarity meeting.

>>

>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:19 AM, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:

>>

>> I am wondering if you guys ever met on the demands thing, and if you did

>> what you talked about.

>> John

>>

>>

>> On 10/01/11, Doug Singsen<dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> Where is the meeting?

>>

>> Sent from my phone

>>

>> On Oct 1, 2011 9:25 AM, "Amin Husain" <amin.husain@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> Sounds good.  1:30

>>>

>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:23 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> that would be great. can we make the meeting at 1:30?

>>>>

>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Amin Husain <amin.husain@gmail.com>

>>>> wrote:

>>>>>

>>>>> I am not sure.  We can meet today in the afternoon before the march

>>>>> after 12, if you and others are free.  I could also explain how this fits

>>>>> into the demands discussion that is on-going and how it's evolving.

>>>>>

>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:18 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> when is the group's next meeting?

>>>>>>

>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:15 AM, Amin Husain <amin.husain@gmail.com>

>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> The working group on principles of solidarity has the document

>>>>>>> printed to be put before the GA to discuss and reach consensus.  If time

>>>>>>> permits, that may be today.

>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 9:04 AM, Doug Singsen <dougsingsen@gmail.com>

>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I'd love to. When and where is the group that is working on demands

>>>>>>>> and points of solidarity meeting?

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:59 AM, Winter Siroco

>>>>>>>> <wintersiroco@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> Doug,

>>>>>>>>> We should be able to modify our documents, and it would be wise to

>>>>>>>>> do so at this early stage. Indeed the points that you are raising are very

>>>>>>>>> important. I urge you to team with those interested and elaborate a

>>>>>>>>> modification that addresses the issues raised.

>>>>>>>>> Cesar

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 11:41 AM, Doug Singsen

>>>>>>>>> <dougsingsen@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> I'm very glad that we have this, and overall it's very good, but

>>>>>>>>>> it's missing one big thing: there is no mention of how Wall Street created

>>>>>>>>>> the economic crisis that destroyed millions of jobs, and how Wall Street was

>>>>>>>>>> bailed out of its crisis by cutting vital public services! Any chance we can

>>>>>>>>>> get that added? I realize that this list is not meant to include every

>>>>>>>>>> grievance, but this is incredibly important and central to the damage done

>>>>>>>>>> by Wall Street specifically, as opposed to capitalism as a whole. Frankly,

>>>>>>>>>> we would not be occupying Liberty Park now if it weren't for the economic

>>>>>>>>>> crisis - that's what set all this in motion. To not include it here seems

>>>>>>>>>> like a major omission, and may make it harder to do outreach to the public

>>>>>>>>>> sector unions that have started supporting us.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> Doug

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:15 AM, gail zawacki

>>>>>>>>>> <witsendnj@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> Love it!

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 9:08 AM, Cesar <wintersiroco@gmail.com>

>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Drew, perhaps a link to the live stream take of the GA

>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion could be posted in the Web page together with the declaration. I

>>>>>>>>>>>> am very glad about finally starting to have some definition. It was a great

>>>>>>>>>>>> work, and we should continue to improve the process of elaborating our

>>>>>>>>>>>> documents.

>>>>>>>>>>>> Cesar

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from phone

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 30, 2011, at 5:30 AM, Drew <dhornbein@gmail.com> wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> http://nycga.cc/2011/09/30/declaration-of-the-occupation-of-new-york-city/

>>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>> spread this far and wide! Short code: http://nycga.cc/?p=780

>>>>>>>>>>>> print for saturday

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>

>>>

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