From:   grimwomyn <grimwomyn@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Saturday, October 08, 2011 5:38:35 AM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   SPAM-MED: Re: [september17discuss] Re: Occupy Wall Street Analytics
 

I am a nonwhite person (Puerto Rican) who never fills out surveys that

ask me to specify my ethnicity. There are people in the world who

could give a crap abt reporting their race/ethnicity, or who deem it

something to pay attention to.

 

I am here to make a change for everyone.

 

As Michael Jackson sang in "Man in the Mirror"

 

(ducking now from the many stones about to be thrown)

 

On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 3:11 AM, Lycophidion <lycophidion@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'd like to thank sister Shaista for her comments and suggest two

> things. First, that the term "non-white people" might be offensive to

> folks: imagine defining people as the negative of the privileged

> group. Second, as implied by Shaista, the work of the PoC Working

> Group is crucial, but not enough. Their goals and efforts should

> infuse every working group, every committee, and OWS, as a whole. It

> is imperative that this young movement begin to reflect the

> demographics of NYC. It is imperative that the base and leadership of

> this struggle actively incorporate those who have most at stake in its

> outcome. That is the only way the Occupy movement is going to go

> forward and weather the storms that lie ahead.

>

> On Oct 8, 1:58 am, shaista husain <shaistahus...@gmail.com> wrote:

>> THis is REALLY SAD empirical evidence of how estranged people of color

>> feel from this movement. Its heartbreaking and devastating.

>>

>> "The sample of non-white people in this sample is so small that I doubt

>> I'll get any worth while insight from it but I'll be sure to let

>> everyone know if I find anything.  Several respondents self-responded

>> with specific nationalities, which could be better way to think about

>> diversifying this movement.  In the mean time we absolutely should

>> make Micha's suggestion of a non-white media day(s) happen."

>>

>> Thanks for putting this at the end of your survey, just like

>> "colonization" is the last sentence of the declaration. Perhaps it is

>> because this is our main challenge, as a movement.

>> Mica's suggestion for non-white dominated media day is bogus--we

>> should make everyday non-white dominated media day, every day.

>> That means white people should actively speak about people of color

>> and minorities==should promote their cause in multicultural

>> inclusiveness in an actively conscious way.

>>

>> Today once again, sitting in the Education and Empowerment working

>> group--if it isn't white men dominating the meeting, then its men of

>> color, while the women of color bicker amongst themselves suspiciously

>> of each other for no reason except that we feel so alienated we just

>> try to learn the "process"

>> Its getting tiresome and ridiculous.

>>

>> Comrades, our outreach into labor and community of color has been

>> amazing, our diversity is a fact on the ground, but we must actively

>> decolonize our movement without tokenism, can white people speak about

>> communities of color directly and speak about diversity and

>> multiculturalism? Why does it have to be brown folks doing all the

>> work? Can you please allow women and women of color to speak up,

>> encourage them to speak, and take it one step further and make these

>> issues your own--i am speaking to the people who are NOT doing this

>> already consciously actively. This is what this occupation has to be

>> about. Not just polls and media hype, but real transformation. Here is

>> a quote by Robin Kelley from Freedom Dreams:

>>

>> "Without new visions, we don’t know what to build, only what to knock

>> down. We not only end up confused, rudderless, and cynical, but we

>> forget that making a revolution is not a series of clever maneuvers

>> and tactics, but a process that can and must transform us"

>> — Robin D.G. Kelley (Freedom Dreams: The Black Radical Imagination)

>>

>>

>>

>> On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:11 AM, Justine <just...@occupywallst.org> wrote:

>> > Great work, ty :)

>>

>> > On Sat, Oct 8, 2011 at 1:07 AM, Harrison Schultz <schuh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> >> Traffic to occupywallst.org continues to surge, our new high is just

>> >> over/under 400,000 visits in the last few days.  350,346 people

>> >> visited occupywallst.org that day, 1,890 of them answered a survey

>> >> that we put up on the site within the span of a few short hours.

>>

>> >> I can't post charts into the body of this message for some reason, but

>> >> as we would expect the overwhelming majority of the respondents are

>> >> white educated, earning little but employed full-time, left-leaning

>> >> straight guys who live in cities and describe themselves as

>> >> independents rather than democratic or republican...only 37

>> >> republicans filled out this survey unfortunately.

>>

>> >> These respondents overwhelmingly use the internet more than the T.V.

>> >> 74% are regularly using Youtube

>> >> 67% are on regularly using Facebook

>> >> 74% are not regularly using Reddit

>> >> 61% are not regularly using Twitter

>>

>> >> 85% are not watching Fox.

>>

>> >> 81% strongly support the Occupy Wall Street Protests.

>> >> 74% believe that the Occupy Wall Street Protests will create positive

>> >> and lasting social change.

>> >> 73% strongly believe that the protests will grow.

>>

>> >> Yet, a combined total of only 24% of these respondents have

>> >> participated in these protests, which suggests that in spite of the

>> >> homogeneity of the movement as it currently stands, there is much

>> >> opportunity to further increase our numbers on the ground from within

>> >> our current base of support.

>>

>> >> I've heard reports from Flux of campers from who watched the

>> >> livestream for so long that they wound up coming to Liberty.

>> >> Definitely the next best thing to being hear.  I also noticed that the

>> >> livestream.com/globalrevolution website showed up 4th on the 2nd page

>> >> of a search for "occupy wall street"  Fortunately optimization is our

>> >> Comrade Zach Notes specialty and he should be able and willing to help

>> >> us if someone from the media team can hook him up with access to the

>> >> site.  I've also added a question to the survey asking if they

>> >> regularly follow the protests on the livestream so we can track this

>> >> with subsequent surveys.  More cameras and streams couldn't hurt at

>> >> all either.

>>

>> >> The sample of non-white people in this sample is so small that I doubt

>> >> I'll get any worth while insight from it but I'll be sure to let

>> >> everyone know if I find anything.  Several respondents self-responded

>> >> with specific nationalities, which could be better way to think about

>> >> diversifying this movement.  In the mean time we absolutely should

>> >> make Micha's suggestion of a non-white media day(s) happen.

>>

>> >> Response patterns for female respondents were so nearly identical to

>> >> the male respondents that I won't bother to indicate them - however I

>> >> did notice that 52% of the female respondents listen to the radio as

>> >> opposed to 40% of male respondents, which could be a good way to start

>> >> trying to reach more women.

>>

>> >> The numbers on the ground from this week look excellent as well.  It

>> >> does look like there's a real hardcore group of roughly 200-300

>> >> holding it down.  There was 115% increase in the average number of

>> >> people counted in the camp each morning between Monday and Friday.

>> >> Let's see if the same trend happens next week or if it was just due to

>> >> nicer weather at the end of the week.

>>

>> >> Monday             10/3/2011      - 163

>> >> Tuesday             10/4/2011     - 240

>> >> Wednesday        10/5/2011     - 261

>> >> Thursday            10/6/2011     - 307

>> >> Friday                10/7/2011     - 351

>>

>> >> I'm done for the night comrades,

>>

>> >> -Harrison

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