From:   Will Gauss <>
Sent time:   Monday, October 10, 2011 7:44:47 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] the next phase

Take Foley Square as a new occupation, establish a shuttle march back and forth between then.


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On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:10 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:


> ok-- can added to this be the dispersion technique?



> "There are worse things than not getting to have another large public

> protest in the streets of New York that accomplishes little. It has

> been done before. According to New York City law, permits are

> necessary for groups of more than 20 to gather legally in public

> parks—so why not gather in groups of 19? Why not conduct small, legal,

> and still powerful actions like those that #occupywallstreet activists

> have been conducting throughout this week, such as yoga classes where

> Wall meets Broad and declaring guerrilla free-speech zones with free

> wireless internet access? What if this were happening on every corner

> in the city, for weeks at a time?


> These days, nobody is more masterful with dispersion tactics than

> those behind the Jasmine Revolution in China. Working in an

> environment of extreme, ruthless oppression, they’ve learned to be

> very creative. Their signature move is the so-called “strolling”

> protest: large numbers of people gather at a public place, designated

> over the internet, and walk around innocently, looking up at the

> buildings and ignoring each other. Obviously, there’s a protest

> happening, because there’s a huge crowd of people in one place, and a

> phalanx of police are watching. But how do you distinguish a protester

> from a bystander? You don’t. You can’t, really. You’ve created a

> disruption, but no targets, and no actual illegality. Meanwhile,

> people become less afraid to resist when they know that others are

> with them."


> Activities can be planned, people are inconveniencing the bank, it

> would be safer, I can't stomach 13 yr olds getting arrested again. The

> NYPD has proven themselves to be mean. There should be a softer

> approach... and it will bring more sympathy to the movement if it is

> peaceful action.


> Dancing on bank lawns in the suburbs, card games in front of chase....

> peaceful.....


> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:49 PM, MAd Hatter <> wrote:

>> Totally Agree.... #occupythebanks and lets get in the streets this week.



>> As of now, there are 3 public meeting points for Saturday. Please add

>> others that I may have missed. Or form an affinity group and go to a

>> bank in the morning! Bring Cameras, do press, and ask for

>> supporters......


>> 11am March on Banks-- from Zucotti and probably (Bowling Green)


>> 1pm-2pm Students Meet up at Washington Square Park (visit banks from there)


>> 5:00pm Take Times Square Mass Convergence



>> Here is the call to action from the October 15th Working group. Let's

>> make Saturday something different.


>> Occupy Wall Street October 15th Call to Action Against Banks.

>> --------------------------------------

>> The time has come to fight the banks.


>> We call on fellow occupiers and those who stand in solidarity to join

>> us in moving from protest to resistance


>> No longer will banks take our homes.


>> No longer will banks rob students of our future.


>> No longer will banks destroy the environment.


>> No longer will banks fund the misery of war.


>> No longer will banks cause massive unemployment.

>> And no longer will banks create and profit from economic crisis

>> without a struggle.


>> The political system has been corrupted and taken over by Wall Street.

>> The banks have destroyed our economy and captured our democracy.

>> Occupy Wall Street is a part of a global movement. On Oct. 15th and

>> beyond, we will take our message directly to the banks.


>> This saturday, visit your local Bank of America, Wells Fargo, or Chase

>> and let them know, we will not allow business as usual.


>> We.


>> Will.


>> Occupy.


>> Everywhere


>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:38 PM, beka economopoulos

>> <> wrote:

>>> Today Bloomberg announced that we could stay in Zuccotti Park

>>> indefinitely:

>>> And so we went from being an occupation to becoming a picnic.

>>> Just yesterday Zizek warned “The only thing I’m afraid of is that we will

>>> someday just go home and then we will meet once a year drinking beer and

>>> nostalgically remembering what a nice time we had here. Promise ourselves

>>> that this will not be the case.”

>>> Of course, it's nice to have some breathing room, but we're in this for the

>>> long haul. There are no "solutions" that can be presented quickly to make

>>> us go away. And so there will be moments where our presence is no longer an

>>> uncomfortable and unknown variable, but rather is normalized and

>>> integrated.

>>> It's in those moments that we have to push the envelop, pry open the space

>>> of possibility even farther. We go as far as we can to destabalize but

>>> maintain support and momentum. And when that's the new "normal" then we do

>>> it again, we push further.

>>> That's how change happens, how we shift the terrain and the terms of the

>>> game. I hope that we can get information out as soon as possible about ways

>>> to plug into the international day of action, this Saturday October 15. And

>>> that we continue to expand and take new space and spread and lead the way.

>>> xob


>>> --

>>> New:

>>> Not An Alternative