From:   Charles Lenchner <>
Sent time:   Monday, October 10, 2011 8:20:12 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] the next phase

Beka is right.
Oct. 15 is a good hook - let's use it to escalate, and in Stephen Lerner's words create a crisis for the rich.
Mass distributed NVDA. Fluid targets. Solidarity. And it can spread around the country and the world.


On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 9:44 PM, Will Gauss <> wrote:
Take Foley Square as a new occupation, establish a shuttle march back and forth between then.

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On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:10 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:

> ok-- can added to this be the dispersion technique?
> "There are worse things than not getting to have another large public
> protest in the streets of New York that accomplishes little. It has
> been done before. According to New York City law, permits are
> necessary for groups of more than 20 to gather legally in public
> parks—so why not gather in groups of 19? Why not conduct small, legal,
> and still powerful actions like those that #occupywallstreet activists
> have been conducting throughout this week, such as yoga classes where
> Wall meets Broad and declaring guerrilla free-speech zones with free
> wireless internet access? What if this were happening on every corner
> in the city, for weeks at a time?
> These days, nobody is more masterful with dispersion tactics than
> those behind the Jasmine Revolution in China. Working in an
> environment of extreme, ruthless oppression, they’ve learned to be
> very creative. Their signature move is the so-called “strolling”
> protest: large numbers of people gather at a public place, designated
> over the internet, and walk around innocently, looking up at the
> buildings and ignoring each other. Obviously, there’s a protest
> happening, because there’s a huge crowd of people in one place, and a
> phalanx of police are watching. But how do you distinguish a protester
> from a bystander? You don’t. You can’t, really. You’ve created a
> disruption, but no targets, and no actual illegality. Meanwhile,
> people become less afraid to resist when they know that others are
> with them."
> Activities can be planned, people are inconveniencing the bank, it
> would be safer, I can't stomach 13 yr olds getting arrested again. The
> NYPD has proven themselves to be mean. There should be a softer
> approach... and it will bring more sympathy to the movement if it is
> peaceful action.
> Dancing on bank lawns in the suburbs, card games in front of chase....
> peaceful.....
> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:49 PM, MAd Hatter <> wrote:
>> Totally Agree.... #occupythebanks and lets get in the streets this week.
>> As of now, there are 3 public meeting points for Saturday.  Please add
>> others that I may have missed. Or form an affinity group and go to a
>> bank in the morning! Bring Cameras, do press, and ask for
>> supporters......
>> 11am March on Banks-- from Zucotti and probably (Bowling Green)
>> 1pm-2pm  Students Meet up at Washington Square Park (visit banks from there)
>> 5:00pm Take Times Square Mass Convergence
>> Here is the call to action from the October 15th Working group. Let's
>> make Saturday something different.
>> Occupy Wall Street October 15th Call to Action Against Banks.
>> --------------------------------------
>> The time has come to fight the banks.
>> We call on fellow occupiers and those who stand in solidarity to join
>> us in moving from protest to resistance
>> No longer will banks take our homes.
>> No longer will banks rob students of our future.
>> No longer will banks destroy the environment.
>> No longer will banks fund the misery of war.
>> No longer will banks cause massive unemployment.
>>  And no longer will banks create and profit from economic crisis
>> without a struggle.
>> The political system has been corrupted and taken over by Wall Street.
>>  The banks have destroyed our economy and captured our democracy.
>>  Occupy Wall Street is a part of a global movement.  On Oct. 15th and
>> beyond, we will take our message directly to the banks.
>> This saturday, visit your local Bank of America, Wells Fargo, or Chase
>> and let them know, we will not allow business as usual.
>> We.
>> Will.
>> Occupy.
>> Everywhere
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:38 PM, beka economopoulos
>> <> wrote:
>>> Today Bloomberg announced that we could stay in Zuccotti Park
>>> indefinitely:
>>> And so we went from being an occupation to becoming a picnic.
>>> Just yesterday Zizek warned “The only thing I’m afraid of is that we will
>>> someday just go home and then we will meet once a year drinking beer and
>>> nostalgically remembering what a nice time we had here. Promise ourselves
>>> that this will not be the case.”
>>> Of course, it's nice to have some breathing room, but we're in this for the
>>> long haul.  There are no "solutions" that can be presented quickly to make
>>> us go away. And so there will be moments where our presence is no longer an
>>> uncomfortable and unknown variable, but rather is normalized and
>>> integrated.
>>> It's in those moments that we have to push the envelop, pry open the space
>>> of possibility even farther. We go as far as we can to destabalize but
>>> maintain support and momentum. And when that's the new "normal" then we do
>>> it again, we push further.
>>> That's how change happens, how we shift the terrain and the terms of the
>>> game.  I hope that we can get information out as soon as possible about ways
>>> to plug into the international day of action, this Saturday October 15.  And
>>> that we continue to expand and take new space and spread and lead the way.
>>> xob
>>> --
>>> New:
>>> Not An Alternative