From:   grimwomyn <grimwomyn@gmail.com>
Sent time:   Monday, October 10, 2011 8:53:44 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
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WINNING!

 

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:29 PM, <jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote:

>  According to Rachel Maddow, last month there were 164 mentions of corporate

> greed on TV news.  This month there are 1,801 mentions of corporate greed on

> TV news.  Muhahaaahaaa

>

>

> On 10/10/11, jemcgloin@verizon.net wrote:

> Yes creativity and small events everywhere can be very effective

>

>

> On 10/10/11, grimwomyn<grimwomyn@gmail.com> wrote:

> ok-- can added to this be the dispersion technique?

> http://my.firedoglake.com/wagingnonviolence/2011/09/15/for-occupywallstreet-dispersion-is-part-of-the-plan/

>

> "There are worse things than not getting to have another large public

> protest in the streets of New York that accomplishes little. It has

> been done before. According to New York City law, permits are

> necessary for groups of more than 20 to gather legally in public

> parks—so why not gather in groups of 19? Why not conduct small, legal,

> and still powerful actions like those that #occupywallstreet activists

> have been conducting throughout this week, such as yoga classes where

> Wall meets Broad and declaring guerrilla free-speech zones with free

> wireless internet access? What if this were happening on every corner

> in the city, for weeks at a time?

>

> These days, nobody is more masterful with dispersion tactics than

> those behind the Jasmine Revolution in China. Working in an

> environment of extreme, ruthless oppression, they’ve learned to be

> very creative. Their signature move is the so-called “strolling”

> protest: large numbers of people gather at a public place, designated

> over the internet, and walk around innocently, looking up at the

> buildings and ignoring each other. Obviously, there’s a protest

> happening, because there’s a huge crowd of people in one place, and a

> phalanx of police are watching. But how do you distinguish a protester

> from a bystander? You don’t. You can’t, really. You’ve created a

> disruption, but no targets, and no actual illegality. Meanwhile,

> people become less afraid to resist when they know that others are

> with them."

>

> Activities can be planned, people are inconveniencing the bank, it

> would be safer, I can't stomach 13 yr olds getting arrested again. The

> NYPD has proven themselves to be mean. There should be a softer

> approach... and it will bring more sympathy to the movement if it is

> peaceful action.

>

> Dancing on bank lawns in the suburbs, card games in front of chase....

> peaceful.....

>

> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:49 PM, MAd Hatter <progressivechange@gmail.com>

> wrote:

>> Totally Agree.... #occupythebanks and lets get in the streets this week.

>>

>>

>> As of now, there are 3 public meeting points for Saturday.  Please add

>> others that I may have missed. Or form an affinity group and go to a

>> bank in the morning! Bring Cameras, do press, and ask for

>> supporters......

>>

>> 11am March on Banks-- from Zucotti and probably (Bowling Green)

>>

>> 1pm-2pm  Students Meet up at Washington Square Park (visit banks from

>> there)

>>

>> 5:00pm Take Times Square Mass Convergence

>>

>>

>> Here is the call to action from the October 15th Working group. Let's

>> make Saturday something different.

>>

>> Occupy Wall Street October 15th Call to Action Against Banks.

>> --------------------------------------

>> The time has come to fight the banks.

>>

>> We call on fellow occupiers and those who stand in solidarity to join

>> us in moving from protest to resistance

>>

>> No longer will banks take our homes.

>>

>> No longer will banks rob students of our future.

>>

>> No longer will banks destroy the environment.

>>

>> No longer will banks fund the misery of war.

>>

>> No longer will banks cause massive unemployment.

>>  And no longer will banks create and profit from economic crisis

>> without a struggle.

>>

>> The political system has been corrupted and taken over by Wall Street.

>>  The banks have destroyed our economy and captured our democracy.

>>  Occupy Wall Street is a part of a global movement.  On Oct. 15th and

>> beyond, we will take our message directly to the banks.

>>

>> This saturday, visit your local Bank of America, Wells Fargo, or Chase

>> and let them know, we will not allow business as usual.

>>

>> We.

>>

>> Will.

>>

>> Occupy.

>>

>> Everywhere

>>

>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:38 PM, beka economopoulos

>> <beka@notanalternative.net> wrote:

>>> Today Bloomberg announced that we could stay in Zuccotti Park

>>>

>>> indefinitely: http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/10/10/bloomberg-occupy-wall-street-can-stay-indefinitely/

>>> And so we went from being an occupation to becoming a picnic.

>>> Just yesterday Zizek warned “The only thing I’m afraid of is that we will

>>> someday just go home and then we will meet once a year drinking beer and

>>> nostalgically remembering what a nice time we had here. Promise ourselves

>>> that this will not be the case.”

>>> Of course, it's nice to have some breathing room, but we're in this for

>>> the

>>> long haul.  There are no "solutions" that can be presented quickly to

>>> make

>>> us go away. And so there will be moments where our presence is no longer

>>> an

>>> uncomfortable and unknown variable, but rather is normalized and

>>> integrated.

>>> It's in those moments that we have to push the envelop, pry open the

>>> space

>>> of possibility even farther. We go as far as we can to destabalize but

>>> maintain support and momentum. And when that's the new "normal" then we

>>> do

>>> it again, we push further.

>>> That's how change happens, how we shift the terrain and the terms of the

>>> game.  I hope that we can get information out as soon as possible about

>>> ways

>>> to plug into the international day of action, this Saturday October 15.

>>>  And

>>> that we continue to expand and take new space and spread and lead the

>>> way.

>>> xob

>>>

>>> --

>>>

>>> New: http://blog.art21.org/2011/05/19/5-questions-for-contemporary-practice-with-not-an-alternative/

>>> Not An Alternative

>>> http://notanalternative.com

>>>

>>

>

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