From:   Will Gauss <>
Sent time:   Monday, October 10, 2011 8:58:45 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] the next phase

No, veto.


Indoor spaces are prime "arrest me" territory.


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On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:54 PM, wrote:


> Word Financial Mall at

> 25 Liberty square

> This is great because myral lynch has an office in here its also indoors



> -----Original Message-----

> From: Will Gauss <>

> To: september17 <>

> Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 9:45 pm

> Subject: Re: [september17discuss] the next phase


> Take Foley Square as a new occupation, establish a shuttle march back and forth between then.


> Sent from my iPhone


> On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:10 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:


>> ok-- can added to this be the dispersion technique?



>> "There are worse things than not getting to have another large public

>> protest in the streets of New York that accomplishes little. It has

>> been done before. According to New York City law, permits are

>> necessary for groups of more than 20 to gather legally in public

>> parks—so why not gather in groups of 19? Why not conduct small, legal,

>> and still powerful actions like those that #occupywallstreet activists

>> have been conducting throughout this week, such as yoga classes where

>> Wall meets Broad and declaring guerrilla free-speech zones with free

>> wireless internet access? What if this were happening on every corner

>> in the city, for weeks at a time?


>> These days, nobody is more masterful with dispersion tactics than

>> those behind the Jasmine Revolution in China. Working in an

>> environment of extreme, ruthless oppression, they’ve learned to be

>> very creative. Their signature move is the so-called “strolling”

>> protest: large numbers of people gather at a public place, designated

>> over the internet, and walk around innocently, looking up at the

>> buildings and ignoring each other. Obviously, there’s a protest

>> happening, because there’s a huge crowd of people in one place, and a

>> phalanx of police are watching. But how do you distinguish a protester

>> from a bystander? You don’t. You can’t, really. You’ve created a

>> disruption, but no targets, and no actual illegality. Meanwhile,

>> people become less afraid to resist when they know that others are

>> with them."


>> Activities can be planned, people are inconveniencing the bank, it

>> would be safer, I can't stomach 13 yr olds getting arrested again. The

>> NYPD has proven themselves to be mean. There should be a softer

>> approach... and it will bring more sympathy to the movement if it is

>> peaceful action.


>> Dancing on bank lawns in the suburbs, card games in front of chase....

>> peaceful.....


>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:49 PM, MAd Hatter

> <> wrote:

>>> Totally Agree.... #occupythebanks and lets get in the streets this

> week.



>>> As of now, there are 3 public meeting points for Saturday. Please

> add

>>> others that I may have missed. Or form an affinity group and go to a

>>> bank in the morning! Bring Cameras, do press, and ask for

>>> supporters......


>>> 11am March on Banks-- from Zucotti and probably (Bowling Green)


>>> 1pm-2pm Students Meet up at Washington Square Park (visit banks

> from there)


>>> 5:00pm Take Times Square Mass Convergence



>>> Here is the call to action from the October 15th Working group. Let's

>>> make Saturday something different.


>>> Occupy Wall Street October 15th Call to Action Against Banks.

>>> --------------------------------------

>>> The time has come to fight the banks.


>>> We call on fellow occupiers and those who stand in solidarity to join

>>> us in moving from protest to resistance


>>> No longer will banks take our homes.


>>> No longer will banks rob students of our future.


>>> No longer will banks destroy the environment.


>>> No longer will banks fund the misery of war.


>>> No longer will banks cause massive unemployment.

>>> And no longer will banks create and profit from economic crisis

>>> without a struggle.


>>> The political system has been corrupted and taken over by Wall

> Street.

>>> The banks have destroyed our economy and captured our democracy.

>>> Occupy Wall Street is a part of a global movement. On Oct. 15th and

>>> beyond, we will take our message directly to the banks.


>>> This saturday, visit your local Bank of America, Wells Fargo, or

> Chase

>>> and let them know, we will not allow business as usual.


>>> We.


>>> Will.


>>> Occupy.


>>> Everywhere


>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:38 PM, beka economopoulos

>>> <> wrote:

>>>> Today Bloomberg announced that we could stay in Zuccotti Park

>>>> indefinitely:


>>>> And so we went from being an occupation to becoming a picnic.

>>>> Just yesterday Zizek warned “The only thing I’m afraid of is that

> we will

>>>> someday just go home and then we will meet once a year drinking

> beer and

>>>> nostalgically remembering what a nice time we had here. Promise

> ourselves

>>>> that this will not be the case.”

>>>> Of course, it's nice to have some breathing room, but we're in this

> for the

>>>> long haul. There are no "solutions" that can be presented quickly

> to make

>>>> us go away. And so there will be moments where our presence is no

> longer an

>>>> uncomfortable and unknown variable, but rather is normalized and

>>>> integrated.

>>>> It's in those moments that we have to push the envelop, pry open

> the space

>>>> of possibility even farther. We go as far as we can to destabalize

> but

>>>> maintain support and momentum. And when that's the new "normal"

> then we do

>>>> it again, we push further.

>>>> That's how change happens, how we shift the terrain and the terms

> of the

>>>> game. I hope that we can get information out as soon as possible

> about ways

>>>> to plug into the international day of action, this Saturday October

> 15. And

>>>> that we continue to expand and take new space and spread and lead

> the way.

>>>> xob


>>>> --

>>>> New:


>>>> Not An Alternative