Sent time:   Monday, October 10, 2011 10:04:44 PM
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] the next phase

I have to agree that you will get trapped arrested if you stage any kind of protest in an indoor atrium, especially that one. 
On 10/10/11, Will Gauss<> wrote:
No, veto.

Indoor spaces are prime "arrest me" territory.

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On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:54 PM, wrote:

> Word Financial Mall at
> 25 Liberty square
> This is great because myral lynch has an office in here its also indoors
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Will Gauss <>
> To: september17 <>
> Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 9:45 pm
> Subject: Re: [september17discuss] the next phase
> Take Foley Square as a new occupation, establish a shuttle march back and forth between then.
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> On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:10 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:
>> ok-- can added to this be the dispersion technique?
>> "There are worse things than not getting to have another large public
>> protest in the streets of New York that accomplishes little. It has
>> been done before. According to New York City law, permits are
>> necessary for groups of more than 20 to gather legally in public
>> parks—so why not gather in groups of 19? Why not conduct small, legal,
>> and still powerful actions like those that #occupywallstreet activists
>> have been conducting throughout this week, such as yoga classes where
>> Wall meets Broad and declaring guerrilla free-speech zones with free
>> wireless internet access? What if this were happening on every corner
>> in the city, for weeks at a time?
>> These days, nobody is more masterful with dispersion tactics than
>> those behind the Jasmine Revolution in China. Working in an
>> environment of extreme, ruthless oppression, they’ve learned to be
>> very creative. Their signature move is the so-called “strolling”
>> protest: large numbers of people gather at a public place, designated
>> over the internet, and walk around innocently, looking up at the
>> buildings and ignoring each other. Obviously, there’s a protest
>> happening, because there’s a huge crowd of people in one place, and a
>> phalanx of police are watching. But how do you distinguish a protester
>> from a bystander? You don’t. You can’t, really. You’ve created a
>> disruption, but no targets, and no actual illegality. Meanwhile,
>> people become less afraid to resist when they know that others are
>> with them."
>> Activities can be planned, people are inconveniencing the bank, it
>> would be safer, I can't stomach 13 yr olds getting arrested again. The
>> NYPD has proven themselves to be mean. There should be a softer
>> approach... and it will bring more sympathy to the movement if it is
>> peaceful action.
>> Dancing on bank lawns in the suburbs, card games in front of chase....
>> peaceful.....
>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:49 PM, MAd Hatter
> <> wrote:
>>> Totally Agree.... #occupythebanks and lets get in the streets this
> week.
>>> As of now, there are 3 public meeting points for Saturday. Please
> add
>>> others that I may have missed. Or form an affinity group and go to a
>>> bank in the morning! Bring Cameras, do press, and ask for
>>> supporters......
>>> 11am March on Banks-- from Zucotti and probably (Bowling Green)
>>> 1pm-2pm Students Meet up at Washington Square Park (visit banks
> from there)
>>> 5:00pm Take Times Square Mass Convergence
>>> Here is the call to action from the October 15th Working group. Let's
>>> make Saturday something different.
>>> Occupy Wall Street October 15th Call to Action Against Banks.
>>> --------------------------------------
>>> The time has come to fight the banks.
>>> We call on fellow occupiers and those who stand in solidarity to join
>>> us in moving from protest to resistance
>>> No longer will banks take our homes.
>>> No longer will banks rob students of our future.
>>> No longer will banks destroy the environment.
>>> No longer will banks fund the misery of war.
>>> No longer will banks cause massive unemployment.
>>> And no longer will banks create and profit from economic crisis
>>> without a struggle.
>>> The political system has been corrupted and taken over by Wall
> Street.
>>> The banks have destroyed our economy and captured our democracy.
>>> Occupy Wall Street is a part of a global movement. On Oct. 15th and
>>> beyond, we will take our message directly to the banks.
>>> This saturday, visit your local Bank of America, Wells Fargo, or
> Chase
>>> and let them know, we will not allow business as usual.
>>> We.
>>> Will.
>>> Occupy.
>>> Everywhere
>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:38 PM, beka economopoulos
>>> <> wrote:
>>>> Today Bloomberg announced that we could stay in Zuccotti Park
>>>> indefinitely:
>>>> And so we went from being an occupation to becoming a picnic.
>>>> Just yesterday Zizek warned “The only thing I’m afraid of is that
> we will
>>>> someday just go home and then we will meet once a year drinking
> beer and
>>>> nostalgically remembering what a nice time we had here. Promise
> ourselves
>>>> that this will not be the case.”
>>>> Of course, it's nice to have some breathing room, but we're in this
> for the
>>>> long haul. There are no "solutions" that can be presented quickly
> to make
>>>> us go away. And so there will be moments where our presence is no
> longer an
>>>> uncomfortable and unknown variable, but rather is normalized and
>>>> integrated.
>>>> It's in those moments that we have to push the envelop, pry open
> the space
>>>> of possibility even farther. We go as far as we can to destabalize
> but
>>>> maintain support and momentum. And when that's the new "normal"
> then we do
>>>> it again, we push further.
>>>> That's how change happens, how we shift the terrain and the terms
> of the
>>>> game. I hope that we can get information out as soon as possible
> about ways
>>>> to plug into the international day of action, this Saturday October
> 15. And
>>>> that we continue to expand and take new space and spread and lead
> the way.
>>>> xob
>>>> --
>>>> New:
>>>> Not An Alternative