From:   grimwomyn <>
Sent time:   Monday, October 10, 2011 10:09:26 PM
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] the next phase

what about a flash mob dance party there occasionally? it can be like

the dance hall of the occupation?


On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:04 AM, <> wrote:

> I have to agree that you will get trapped arrested if you stage any kind of

> protest in an indoor atrium, especially that one.



> On 10/10/11, Will Gauss<> wrote:

> No, veto.


> Indoor spaces are prime "arrest me" territory.


> Sent from my iPhone


> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:54 PM, wrote:


>> Word Financial Mall at

>> 25 Liberty square

>> This is great because myral lynch has an office in here its also indoors



>> -----Original Message-----

>> From: Will Gauss <>

>> To: september17 <>

>> Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 9:45 pm

>> Subject: Re: [september17discuss] the next phase


>> Take Foley Square as a new occupation, establish a shuttle march back and

>> forth between then.


>> Sent from my iPhone


>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:10 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:


>>> ok-- can added to this be the dispersion technique?




>>> "There are worse things than not getting to have another large public

>>> protest in the streets of New York that accomplishes little. It has

>>> been done before. According to New York City law, permits are

>>> necessary for groups of more than 20 to gather legally in public

>>> parks—so why not gather in groups of 19? Why not conduct small, legal,

>>> and still powerful actions like those that #occupywallstreet activists

>>> have been conducting throughout this week, such as yoga classes where

>>> Wall meets Broad and declaring guerrilla free-speech zones with free

>>> wireless internet access? What if this were happening on every corner

>>> in the city, for weeks at a time?


>>> These days, nobody is more masterful with dispersion tactics than

>>> those behind the Jasmine Revolution in China. Working in an

>>> environment of extreme, ruthless oppression, they’ve learned to be

>>> very creative. Their signature move is the so-called “strollingâ€

>>> protest: large numbers of people gather at a public place, designated

>>> over the internet, and walk around innocently, looking up at the

>>> buildings and ignoring each other. Obviously, there’s a protest

>>> happening, because there’s a huge crowd of people in one place, and a

>>> phalanx of police are watching. But how do you distinguish a protester

>>> from a bystander? You don’t. You can’t, really. You’ve created a

>>> disruption, but no targets, and no actual illegality. Meanwhile,

>>> people become less afraid to resist when they know that others are

>>> with them."


>>> Activities can be planned, people are inconveniencing the bank, it

>>> would be safer, I can't stomach 13 yr olds getting arrested again. The

>>> NYPD has proven themselves to be mean. There should be a softer

>>> approach... and it will bring more sympathy to the movement if it is

>>> peaceful action.


>>> Dancing on bank lawns in the suburbs, card games in front of chase....

>>> peaceful.....


>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:49 PM, MAd Hatter

>> <> wrote:

>>>> Totally Agree.... #occupythebanks and lets get in the streets this

>> week.



>>>> As of now, there are 3 public meeting points for Saturday. Please

>> add

>>>> others that I may have missed. Or form an affinity group and go to a

>>>> bank in the morning! Bring Cameras, do press, and ask for

>>>> supporters......


>>>> 11am March on Banks-- from Zucotti and probably (Bowling Green)


>>>> 1pm-2pm Students Meet up at Washington Square Park (visit banks

>> from there)


>>>> 5:00pm Take Times Square Mass Convergence



>>>> Here is the call to action from the October 15th Working group. Let's

>>>> make Saturday something different.


>>>> Occupy Wall Street October 15th Call to Action Against Banks.

>>>> --------------------------------------

>>>> The time has come to fight the banks.


>>>> We call on fellow occupiers and those who stand in solidarity to join

>>>> us in moving from protest to resistance


>>>> No longer will banks take our homes.


>>>> No longer will banks rob students of our future.


>>>> No longer will banks destroy the environment.


>>>> No longer will banks fund the misery of war.


>>>> No longer will banks cause massive unemployment.

>>>> And no longer will banks create and profit from economic crisis

>>>> without a struggle.


>>>> The political system has been corrupted and taken over by Wall

>> Street.

>>>> The banks have destroyed our economy and captured our democracy.

>>>> Occupy Wall Street is a part of a global movement. On Oct. 15th and

>>>> beyond, we will take our message directly to the banks.


>>>> This saturday, visit your local Bank of America, Wells Fargo, or

>> Chase

>>>> and let them know, we will not allow business as usual.


>>>> We.


>>>> Will.


>>>> Occupy.


>>>> Everywhere


>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:38 PM, beka economopoulos

>>>> <> wrote:

>>>>> Today Bloomberg announced that we could stay in Zuccotti Park

>>>>> indefinitely:



>>>>> And so we went from being an occupation to becoming a picnic.

>>>>> Just yesterday Zizek warned “The only thing I’m afraid of is that

>> we will

>>>>> someday just go home and then we will meet once a year drinking

>> beer and

>>>>> nostalgically remembering what a nice time we had here. Promise

>> ourselves

>>>>> that this will not be the case.â€

>>>>> Of course, it's nice to have some breathing room, but we're in this

>> for the

>>>>> long haul. There are no "solutions" that can be presented quickly

>> to make

>>>>> us go away. And so there will be moments where our presence is no

>> longer an

>>>>> uncomfortable and unknown variable, but rather is normalized and

>>>>> integrated.

>>>>> It's in those moments that we have to push the envelop, pry open

>> the space

>>>>> of possibility even farther. We go as far as we can to destabalize

>> but

>>>>> maintain support and momentum. And when that's the new "normal"

>> then we do

>>>>> it again, we push further.

>>>>> That's how change happens, how we shift the terrain and the terms

>> of the

>>>>> game. I hope that we can get information out as soon as possible

>> about ways

>>>>> to plug into the international day of action, this Saturday October

>> 15. And

>>>>> that we continue to expand and take new space and spread and lead

>> the way.

>>>>> xob


>>>>> --

>>>>> New:



>>>>> Not An Alternative