From:   grimwomyn <>
Sent time:   Monday, October 10, 2011 10:11:03 PM
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] the next phase

but i think there has to be something... a group mediation, yoga,

playdate for parents... going back to Nathan's piece on diversionary

kind of activities that make a point but are peaceful and



On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:09 AM, grimwomyn <> wrote:

> what about a flash mob dance party there occasionally? it can be like

> the dance hall of the occupation?


> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:04 AM,  <> wrote:

>> I have to agree that you will get trapped arrested if you stage any kind of

>> protest in an indoor atrium, especially that one.



>> On 10/10/11, Will Gauss<> wrote:

>> No, veto.


>> Indoor spaces are prime "arrest me" territory.


>> Sent from my iPhone


>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 10:54 PM, wrote:


>>> Word Financial Mall at

>>> 25 Liberty square

>>> This is great because myral lynch has an office in here its also indoors



>>> -----Original Message-----

>>> From: Will Gauss <>

>>> To: september17 <>

>>> Sent: Mon, Oct 10, 2011 9:45 pm

>>> Subject: Re: [september17discuss] the next phase


>>> Take Foley Square as a new occupation, establish a shuttle march back and

>>> forth between then.


>>> Sent from my iPhone


>>> On Oct 10, 2011, at 9:10 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:


>>>> ok-- can added to this be the dispersion technique?




>>>> "There are worse things than not getting to have another large public

>>>> protest in the streets of New York that accomplishes little. It has

>>>> been done before. According to New York City law, permits are

>>>> necessary for groups of more than 20 to gather legally in public

>>>> parks—so why not gather in groups of 19? Why not conduct small, legal,

>>>> and still powerful actions like those that #occupywallstreet activists

>>>> have been conducting throughout this week, such as yoga classes where

>>>> Wall meets Broad and declaring guerrilla free-speech zones with free

>>>> wireless internet access? What if this were happening on every corner

>>>> in the city, for weeks at a time?


>>>> These days, nobody is more masterful with dispersion tactics than

>>>> those behind the Jasmine Revolution in China. Working in an

>>>> environment of extreme, ruthless oppression, they’ve learned to be

>>>> very creative. Their signature move is the so-called “strollingâ€

>>>> protest: large numbers of people gather at a public place, designated

>>>> over the internet, and walk around innocently, looking up at the

>>>> buildings and ignoring each other. Obviously, there’s a protest

>>>> happening, because there’s a huge crowd of people in one place, and a

>>>> phalanx of police are watching. But how do you distinguish a protester

>>>> from a bystander? You don’t. You can’t, really. You’ve created a

>>>> disruption, but no targets, and no actual illegality. Meanwhile,

>>>> people become less afraid to resist when they know that others are

>>>> with them."


>>>> Activities can be planned, people are inconveniencing the bank, it

>>>> would be safer, I can't stomach 13 yr olds getting arrested again. The

>>>> NYPD has proven themselves to be mean. There should be a softer

>>>> approach... and it will bring more sympathy to the movement if it is

>>>> peaceful action.


>>>> Dancing on bank lawns in the suburbs, card games in front of chase....

>>>> peaceful.....


>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:49 PM, MAd Hatter

>>> <> wrote:

>>>>> Totally Agree.... #occupythebanks and lets get in the streets this

>>> week.



>>>>> As of now, there are 3 public meeting points for Saturday. Please

>>> add

>>>>> others that I may have missed. Or form an affinity group and go to a

>>>>> bank in the morning! Bring Cameras, do press, and ask for

>>>>> supporters......


>>>>> 11am March on Banks-- from Zucotti and probably (Bowling Green)


>>>>> 1pm-2pm Students Meet up at Washington Square Park (visit banks

>>> from there)


>>>>> 5:00pm Take Times Square Mass Convergence



>>>>> Here is the call to action from the October 15th Working group. Let's

>>>>> make Saturday something different.


>>>>> Occupy Wall Street October 15th Call to Action Against Banks.

>>>>> --------------------------------------

>>>>> The time has come to fight the banks.


>>>>> We call on fellow occupiers and those who stand in solidarity to join

>>>>> us in moving from protest to resistance


>>>>> No longer will banks take our homes.


>>>>> No longer will banks rob students of our future.


>>>>> No longer will banks destroy the environment.


>>>>> No longer will banks fund the misery of war.


>>>>> No longer will banks cause massive unemployment.

>>>>> And no longer will banks create and profit from economic crisis

>>>>> without a struggle.


>>>>> The political system has been corrupted and taken over by Wall

>>> Street.

>>>>> The banks have destroyed our economy and captured our democracy.

>>>>> Occupy Wall Street is a part of a global movement. On Oct. 15th and

>>>>> beyond, we will take our message directly to the banks.


>>>>> This saturday, visit your local Bank of America, Wells Fargo, or

>>> Chase

>>>>> and let them know, we will not allow business as usual.


>>>>> We.


>>>>> Will.


>>>>> Occupy.


>>>>> Everywhere


>>>>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 7:38 PM, beka economopoulos

>>>>> <> wrote:

>>>>>> Today Bloomberg announced that we could stay in Zuccotti Park

>>>>>> indefinitely:



>>>>>> And so we went from being an occupation to becoming a picnic.

>>>>>> Just yesterday Zizek warned “The only thing I’m afraid of is that

>>> we will

>>>>>> someday just go home and then we will meet once a year drinking

>>> beer and

>>>>>> nostalgically remembering what a nice time we had here. Promise

>>> ourselves

>>>>>> that this will not be the case.â€

>>>>>> Of course, it's nice to have some breathing room, but we're in this

>>> for the

>>>>>> long haul. There are no "solutions" that can be presented quickly

>>> to make

>>>>>> us go away. And so there will be moments where our presence is no

>>> longer an

>>>>>> uncomfortable and unknown variable, but rather is normalized and

>>>>>> integrated.

>>>>>> It's in those moments that we have to push the envelop, pry open

>>> the space

>>>>>> of possibility even farther. We go as far as we can to destabalize

>>> but

>>>>>> maintain support and momentum. And when that's the new "normal"

>>> then we do

>>>>>> it again, we push further.

>>>>>> That's how change happens, how we shift the terrain and the terms

>>> of the

>>>>>> game. I hope that we can get information out as soon as possible

>>> about ways

>>>>>> to plug into the international day of action, this Saturday October

>>> 15. And

>>>>>> that we continue to expand and take new space and spread and lead

>>> the way.

>>>>>> xob


>>>>>> --

>>>>>> New:



>>>>>> Not An Alternative