From:   jemcgloin@verizon.net
Sent time:   Tuesday, October 11, 2011 3:16:54 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] the next phase
 

Depending on the kind of weather we get igloos could be effective.
 
 
On 10/11/11, beka economopoulos<beka@notanalternative.net> wrote:
There are lots of folks working on weather contingencies.  Heck yeah, we're staying through Spring.

Some ideas:

* there are allies who want to fundraise to get 500 sub-zero sleeping bags donated, as well as cold-weather gears (hats, gloves, coats, etc.)
* working on lining up indoor spaces nearby where folks can rotate out if they're getting sick or need a night to warm up.
* consider a coordinated effort in solidarity with one another to push for structures and on-site warming options. get supporters, unions, and community orgs to back us up when we go for it
* use mobile blast list, get shovels donated, and get folks down there to help get rid of snow

more ideas floating around out there, many in the works!

On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:19 PM, <jemcgloin@verizon.net> wrote:
He basically said that the weather will chase us out, and I think that is what they have been hoping for a while.  I will repeat that I think we need to take a large part of our budget and buy the right gear for a winter stay.  I will have some time Christmas vacation and winter vacation in February.  That would really mess with them if we were still here in the spring.
 
 
On 10/10/11, beka economopoulos<beka@notanalternative.net> wrote:
Today Bloomberg announced that we could stay in Zuccotti Park indefinitely: http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/10/10/bloomberg-occupy-wall-street-can-stay-indefinitely/

And so we went from being an occupation to becoming a picnic.  

Just yesterday Zizek warned “The only thing I’m afraid of is that we will someday just go home and then we will meet once a year drinking beer and nostalgically remembering what a nice time we had here. Promise ourselves that this will not be the case.” 

Of course, it's nice to have some breathing room, but we're in this for the long haul.  There are no "solutions" that can be presented quickly to make us go away. And so there will be moments where our presence is no longer an uncomfortable and unknown variable, but rather is normalized and integrated. 

It's in those moments that we have to push the envelop, pry open the space of possibility even farther. We go as far as we can to destabalize but maintain support and momentum. And when that's the new "normal" then we do it again, we push further.  

That's how change happens, how we shift the terrain and the terms of the game.  I hope that we can get information out as soon as possible about ways to plug into the international day of action, this Saturday October 15.  And that we continue to expand and take new space and spread and lead the way.

xob




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