From:   Amin Husain <>
Sent time:   Tuesday, October 11, 2011 11:52:23 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Re: the next phase

There is a lot of thinking around oct 15 in this regard and that sounds amazing to me as another, additional location, to cap off the global day of rage.

It will also show people that this is a movement that is not cooptable because it is not "safe".

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:48 AM, shaista husain <> wrote:
Other Occupations that have happened across the globe do not have
weather like NYC. We have to set an example and may have to break some
rules in order to maintain our ground. We might have to have tents or
using solar lamps build heaters. I know this is very ambitious but we
need to be just as ingenuous as, for example, how we feed so many
folks daily and how phenomenal is our water filtration plant in the
kitchen--truly amazing. Negates all the negative press images that
attempt to label us...We can also start to collect names of NYC
comrades who volunteer to get occupiers to take days off, bathe,
shower, etc....We are re-organizing our hospital next week and begin
preventative nutrition for campers--but we have enough herbs to last a
week perhaps, if the tonics are successful, i have contacted green
community groups for help and mobilization. If anyone has ANY
suggestions for sustainability--- please email as soon as possible, or
can help us, contact Dave Zalk, Bugz or myself towards this effort. I
hope the sustainability meeting will happen soon, please let me know
when it is.

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Lycophidion <> wrote:
> Good ideas. All of this presupposes a qualitative leap in coordination
> between WGs and organization and integration of Liberty Park OWSers.
> No, living outside in freezing weather is definitely not the same as a
> ski trip. One possibility is to establish a scheduled rotation of
> "campers," to avoid burn-out and folks becoming sick (not just if they
> get sick). Maybe 3 day to 1-week shifts, when it gets really cold.
> Perhaps this should be mandatory (although positively motivated),
> since some will want to prove their revolutionary mettle by hanging
> tough, even when they're coming down with the flu. In turn, they would
> get other people sick.
> On Oct 11, 5:18 pm, wrote:
>> The cold weather has to all be very high-tech.  Living outside is not the same as going skiing.
>> On 10/11/11,beka economopoulos<>wrote:There are lots of folks working on weather contingencies.  Heck yeah, we're staying through Spring.
>> Some ideas:
>> * there are allies who want to fundraise to get 500 sub-zero sleeping bags donated, as well as cold-weather gears (hats, gloves, coats, etc.)
>> * working on lining up indoor spaces nearby where folks can rotate out if they're getting sick or need a night to warm up.
>> * consider a coordinated effort in solidarity with one another to push for structures and on-site warming options. get supporters, unions, and community orgs to back us up when we go for it
>> * use mobile blast list, get shovels donated, and get folks down there to help get rid of snow