From:   grimwomyn <>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:15:54 AM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Advice to #occupywallstreet from Matt Taibbi

Sorry shiasta but you are bringing a tone that is unhelpful to at least my experience on this list to make changes in America happen. I say that as a single mom, puerto rican, woman, feminist, trannie loving, queer, woman.

Please stop trying to bring a devisive tone. It is unhelpful.

I am here to work on an economic civil rights issue. That is the focus that is resonating around the country, it is what the people want, and at this point, our responsibility to lead the way on.

On Oct 13, 2011 12:08 PM, "shaista husain" <> wrote:
This kind of vulgar economistic and narrow conceptualization of
protest is hierarchical bureaucratic and silly.
The disconnect in, for example, the July 14th rent and tent movement
in Israel is typical of the same kind of disconnect that silences
people of color. How can you even think of discussing housing rent
increases while ignoring the wholescale eviction of Palestinians and
GENOCIDE by a military apartheid regime. Do you really think this
protest is just about some narrow 1% conspiracy as if we could just
remove the handful of culprits, we could address some middle class
woes and all live happily ever after? This naive liberal idea silences
the majority of people who comprise this city, histories of oppression
and struggles. I agree we need unity, but how about you do your part
to stand in solidarity with people's struggle and try to learn from
them. You can't impose some one liner and the sun don't rise when you
wake up.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:46 AM, grimwomyn <> wrote:
> He hits on a lot of great points here. I am of the opinion that we tighten
> up quick abt being here for economic issues, as that is what is bringing the
> 99% here. If we get muddied into the many layers of politics, we are gonna
> be as bad as congress and not get anything done.
> We started a class war and we better be ready to bring it home and finish
> it. If we get divided over cultural, ethnic, gender politics we are gonna be
> too busy fighting each other to pay attention to the monstrous banking and
> corporate system that wants us to fail. They want us to give up, they want
> us to go away. The fastest way to do that is to start fighting each other on
> the micropolitic level when all of those things, intolerance of others,
> misogyny, bigotry, and hatred will be a lot easier to fight once we get
> resources back into our communities.
> We break the current unjust economic system the road will be clear for us to
> take on everything else.