From:   shaista husain <>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:20:02 AM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Advice to #occupywallstreet from Matt Taibbi

I am sorry but i feel you are being divisive, rather than celebrating

the plurality of this movement, you keep on insisting --and

censoring--a lot of other people. Please excuse my tone, and try to

make RELATIONS--CONNECTIONS--LINKS-- rather than streamline a very

narrow agenda YOU feel --obviously people are protesting Wall Street,

thats a no brainer.... can we get some nuance here?




On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:

> Sorry shiasta but you are bringing a tone that is unhelpful to at least my

> experience on this list to make changes in America happen. I say that as a

> single mom, puerto rican, woman, feminist, trannie loving, queer, woman.


> Please stop trying to bring a devisive tone. It is unhelpful.


> I am here to work on an economic civil rights issue. That is the focus that

> is resonating around the country, it is what the people want, and at this

> point, our responsibility to lead the way on.


> On Oct 13, 2011 12:08 PM, "shaista husain" <> wrote:


>> This kind of vulgar economistic and narrow conceptualization of

>> protest is hierarchical bureaucratic and silly.

>> The disconnect in, for example, the July 14th rent and tent movement

>> in Israel is typical of the same kind of disconnect that silences

>> people of color. How can you even think of discussing housing rent

>> increases while ignoring the wholescale eviction of Palestinians and

>> GENOCIDE by a military apartheid regime. Do you really think this

>> protest is just about some narrow 1% conspiracy as if we could just

>> remove the handful of culprits, we could address some middle class

>> woes and all live happily ever after? This naive liberal idea silences

>> the majority of people who comprise this city, histories of oppression

>> and struggles. I agree we need unity, but how about you do your part

>> to stand in solidarity with people's struggle and try to learn from

>> them. You can't impose some one liner and the sun don't rise when you

>> wake up.


>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:46 AM, grimwomyn <> wrote:

>> > He hits on a lot of great points here. I am of the opinion that we

>> > tighten

>> > up quick abt being here for economic issues, as that is what is bringing

>> > the

>> > 99% here. If we get muddied into the many layers of politics, we are

>> > gonna

>> > be as bad as congress and not get anything done.

>> >

>> > We started a class war and we better be ready to bring it home and

>> > finish

>> > it. If we get divided over cultural, ethnic, gender politics we are

>> > gonna be

>> > too busy fighting each other to pay attention to the monstrous banking

>> > and

>> > corporate system that wants us to fail. They want us to give up, they

>> > want

>> > us to go away. The fastest way to do that is to start fighting each

>> > other on

>> > the micropolitic level when all of those things, intolerance of others,

>> > misogyny, bigotry, and hatred will be a lot easier to fight once we get

>> > resources back into our communities.

>> >

>> > We break the current unjust economic system the road will be clear for

>> > us to

>> > take on everything else.

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >