From:   shaista husain <>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:23:47 AM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Advice to #occupywallstreet from Matt Taibbi

You can and must do your part, and i stand in solidarity w you, but

please refrain from silencing others and waving your finger at other

people who bring up doesn't matter to me that you are

puerto rican etc etc, i am not addressing your identity, just your

need to be narrow. How about welcoming different voices protesting and

addressing manifold related issues. That is the beauty of this protest

and its strength.


On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:20 PM, shaista husain

<> wrote:

> I am sorry but i feel you are being divisive, rather than celebrating

> the plurality of this movement, you keep on insisting --and

> censoring--a lot of other people. Please excuse my tone, and try to

> make RELATIONS--CONNECTIONS--LINKS-- rather than streamline a very

> narrow agenda YOU feel --obviously people are protesting Wall Street,

> thats a no brainer.... can we get some nuance here?

> THanks,

> Shaista


> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:15 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:

>> Sorry shiasta but you are bringing a tone that is unhelpful to at least my

>> experience on this list to make changes in America happen. I say that as a

>> single mom, puerto rican, woman, feminist, trannie loving, queer, woman.


>> Please stop trying to bring a devisive tone. It is unhelpful.


>> I am here to work on an economic civil rights issue. That is the focus that

>> is resonating around the country, it is what the people want, and at this

>> point, our responsibility to lead the way on.


>> On Oct 13, 2011 12:08 PM, "shaista husain" <> wrote:


>>> This kind of vulgar economistic and narrow conceptualization of

>>> protest is hierarchical bureaucratic and silly.

>>> The disconnect in, for example, the July 14th rent and tent movement

>>> in Israel is typical of the same kind of disconnect that silences

>>> people of color. How can you even think of discussing housing rent

>>> increases while ignoring the wholescale eviction of Palestinians and

>>> GENOCIDE by a military apartheid regime. Do you really think this

>>> protest is just about some narrow 1% conspiracy as if we could just

>>> remove the handful of culprits, we could address some middle class

>>> woes and all live happily ever after? This naive liberal idea silences

>>> the majority of people who comprise this city, histories of oppression

>>> and struggles. I agree we need unity, but how about you do your part

>>> to stand in solidarity with people's struggle and try to learn from

>>> them. You can't impose some one liner and the sun don't rise when you

>>> wake up.


>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:46 AM, grimwomyn <> wrote:

>>> > He hits on a lot of great points here. I am of the opinion that we

>>> > tighten

>>> > up quick abt being here for economic issues, as that is what is bringing

>>> > the

>>> > 99% here. If we get muddied into the many layers of politics, we are

>>> > gonna

>>> > be as bad as congress and not get anything done.

>>> >

>>> > We started a class war and we better be ready to bring it home and

>>> > finish

>>> > it. If we get divided over cultural, ethnic, gender politics we are

>>> > gonna be

>>> > too busy fighting each other to pay attention to the monstrous banking

>>> > and

>>> > corporate system that wants us to fail. They want us to give up, they

>>> > want

>>> > us to go away. The fastest way to do that is to start fighting each

>>> > other on

>>> > the micropolitic level when all of those things, intolerance of others,

>>> > misogyny, bigotry, and hatred will be a lot easier to fight once we get

>>> > resources back into our communities.

>>> >

>>> > We break the current unjust economic system the road will be clear for

>>> > us to

>>> > take on everything else.

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >

>>> >