From:   shaista husain <>
Sent time:   Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:17:59 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] Re: other ways to prepare for tomorrow

Sure, and since i was there on columbus day i can attest to the truth

of this. Also, seeing our indigenous speaks marginalized, on the side

of the GA, with Democracy Now press, giving speeches OUTSIDE of the

GA, was also deeply disappointing to many many people of color who

have been echoing these sentiments below.

here is an email sent from:


Jaraner@s harassed at OWS


Not sure if you saw this or were there for it but I figured I'd send

it your way. Some white asshole was telling them to move off the

flower bed and started pushing one of the jaraneras to get them to

move (kind of hard to see in the video). Please pass it along to some

of your folks to hopefully identify who the fuck this dude was. Here

is the statement by one of the jaraneras Aura Bogado:


PLEASE READ ALL THE WAY THROUGH: As many of you know, I've been very

reluctant to go back to OWS after feeling marginalized there a few

weeks ago. I talked to a few friends and we decided we would go as a

gesture of honor to our indigenous ancestors on a day which otherwise

celebrates the arrival of some guy named Chris who landed in the

Bahamas some years ago.... Things got off to a bad start last night

after way too many pushy people attempted to enter the ceremony circle

and a few of us stepped away to play music among ourselves. That's

when a white man (completely unprovoked, and who appears in this video

at 00:15, 00:45 and 00:50) began screaming at us and picking up our

stuff and throwing it back down on the floor. He identified himself as

an OWS organizer and, besides verbally humiliating us, told us we

"don't belong here." He then physically attacked me (that's why the

video cuts off, because the passerby who was taping us play on his

phone had to pull him off of me), and by doing so, essentially

guaranteed that this group of us will no longer be attempting to

participate in OWS. I am asking for your help in identifying this

person--please post his name here or send me a message. I appreciate

your support.




On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:51 PM, grimwomyn <> wrote:

> Could you please post said videos of harrassment?


> On Oct 13, 2011 11:41 PM, "shaista husain" <> wrote:


>> In a facililitation meeting held Wed 9pm, Security group reported that

>> there have been cases of groups of "skinheads" or violent individuals

>> already. Security mentioned there is a way to identify them by their

>> shoelaces. White shoelaces signify white supremacy; red shoelaces

>> represent BLOOD that has been spilled by that individual and

>> Yellow/purple is also denotes a status in this group. I hope you can

>> disseminate this information to everyone so we can report this to our

>> own security.

>> These groups are seeking out people of color minorities and those who

>> protest with us. For example, on Columbus Day we had to form strong

>> circle around the dance circle, and despite this, there are videos on

>> you tube depicting cases of physical harassment against indigenous

>> people.

>> There hasn't yet been a code of conduct passed by the GA to

>> specifically address hatemonger groups or  violent individuals but the

>> consensus definitely is, to have our own security remove them before

>> the police have to get involved....

>> There was also an incident at DC when people of color had to defend

>> themselves from violent right wing groups.

>> Most of these infiltrators who are looking to attack Muslims and

>> People of Color.




>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Richard S. <>

>> wrote:

>> >>They will not always follow the typical picture  of a middle aged white

>> >> guy with a beer gut<

>> >

>> > Thank you.  ;-)

>> >

>> >

>> > On Oct 13, 3:30 pm, grimwomyn <> wrote:

>> >> Also I would like to add that we need to be careful of agent

>> >> provocateurs, people who work very hard at bringing divisive issues

>> >> both on and off line. They will not always follow the typical picture

>> >> of a middle aged white guy with a beer gut, they may be in various

>> >> forms sent to create derision and infighting.

>> >>

>> >> Corporations would much rather see us kill the movement off ourselves

>> >> with infighting than with bully clubs from police.

>> >>

>> >> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 3:23 PM,

>> >> <>wrote:

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >>

>> >> > I assume some or all of this will come up at the GA tonight and/or in

>> >> > working groups, but:

>> >> > * I'm sure our own activists, and the media, will be videoing

>> >> > everything

>> >> > tomorrow morning, but do we need special preparation to encourage and

>> >> > centralize immediate dissemination of video/photos of possible cop

>> >> > brutality? Do we need to tell the press now that we're doing such

>> >> > documentation, i.e. as a way of sending the public message that we

>> >> > expect

>> >> > the worst from Bloomberg and Kelly?

>> >> > * The same re Medics: In addition to our own Medics, maybe we should

>> >> > put

>> >> > out a special call to healthcare workers who've been volunteering

>> >> > from

>> >> > unions or elsewhere to show up -- and again, maybe put out a call to

>> >> > the

>> >> > press saying we're lining up such help as a way of sending the public

>> >> > message that we expect the worst from Bloomberg and Kelly.

>> >> > Maybe the Medics should do some emergency prep training tonight for

>> >> > nonmedics on how to help with emergencies, tear gas, etc., and OWSers

>> >> > in

>> >> > general should be educated on what to do if they're gassed, if they

>> >> > see

>> >> > someone getting beaten, etc.

>> >> > * I don't even mention the legal angle, I'm sure that's in high gear

>> >> > already.

>> >> > * All of which is a way of saying BEFOREHAND that "the whole world is

>> >> > watching."

>> >