Sent time:   Friday, October 14, 2011 3:47:05 PM
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] MoveOn Execs Now Official Spokespeople For OWS, According to MSM Execs

I don't see the problem with this (especially after listening to the radio broadcast which makes it obvious when the dj is speaking and when the moveon guy is speaking.  moveon makes it clear that we are separate movements with separate  goals but with overlapping interests and that we can work together.  It is not any worse for moveon to march to an occupation than for a union to march to the occupation.  Notice that the occupation isn't marching to them.
On 10/14/11, Micah White<> wrote:
FYI, here is how MoveOn is working on the local level to co-opt. This was sent to the organizers of #OCCUPYBERKELEY. Notice how they are trying to turn Oct 15 into a rally for themselves.  I assume these kinds of "friendly" emails are being sent out to occupations across the country.  They want to steal our momentum to revive their dead campaign.

Already, it looks like Eugene fell for the trap? See here:

Dear Emma,

We've been organizing a BIG Jobs Not Cuts march and rally since August, and it's in Oakland, Oct. 15, 1 pm, starting at Laney College. Can you have your OccupyBerkeley rally join us, and we can then join you, to make both actions bigger and better? All the Bay Area labor councils, MoveOn/Rebuild the Dream, peace, environmental, youth, senior, and political groups have endorsed the Jobs Not Cuts protest, and we need you, too. See all the details at

Our plan is to march from Laney to Frank Ogawa Plaza, stopping at the Federal Building to symbolically nail our list of demands to Congress's door.

We've been sending out press releases and calendar listings, and all our participating groups are publicizing the protest to their members. I'm so sorry that you didn't get the word before planning your action, but I hope we can join forces and make lemonade out of this lemon of a conflict.

Communications Committee
MoveOn East Bay Council

cc to Charles Davidson, Coordinator, MoveOn East Bay Council


On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Justine <> wrote: is prepared to help.  Our website gets ~300,000 visitors a day and we are ready to make a very strong statement against any group attempting to drown out the voices of the people.  This movement will be co-opted over our dead bodies.


On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 2:31 PM, David DeGraw <> wrote:
top MoveOn leaders / executives are all over national television speaking for the movement.  Saying We, We, We, We and directing people to, which redirects to the DailyKos.

again, fully appreciate the help and support of MoveOn, but the MSM is clearly using them as the spokespeople for OWS.  I just had an off-record discussion w/ NBC executives who say that other news execs there plan to use them to divide the movement. This is an blatant attempt to fracture the 99% into a Democratic Party organization. The leadership of MoveON and the Daily Kos are Democratic Party operatives.  They do a lot of great work, but they are divide and conquer pawns.   For years they ignored Wall Street protests to keep complete focus on the Republicans, in favor of Goldman's Obama and Wall Street's Democratic leadership.

if anyone at Move On or Daily Kos would like to have a public debate about these comments, we invite it.

if MoveOn leaders / executives are going to keep going on National TV to speak for OWS, we need them to make a clear statement.

please urgently propose that statement or a plan to call them out in an effective way.

know there are some people who think any attempts at co-option will be unsuccessful, and there is some truth to that, but we can't let blatant co-option attempts continue w/out a response.  the longer we remain silent as people get on national tv claiming to speak for and lead the movement, the more damage will be done.