From:   Matthew Bralow <>
Sent time:   Friday, October 14, 2011 5:25:07 PM

yes! but people need to know what zapatista movment is and why to


 in case people missed it. i hope someone is writing this up now for

consideration at GA. perhaps we can form a working group tonight and

then present tomorrow a statement of solidarity to be voted on. gives

people a chance to read online what they stand for. or maybe we can

just do this tonight assuming people are informed and are ready to say

they stand in solidarity with all humble, simple, peace-loving people

around the world. on a side note, this should be considered too...

solidarity with mother earth!


and actually.... don't know if this was discussed (i can't keep up

with the amount of e-mails!)... but this opens up the discussion and

planning of how we as a GA will deal with the probable inundation of

groups stating they're in solidarity with us.... and who we as a body

of individuals actually do stand in solidarity with.. (we need some of

these groups statements and web links on asap in my opinion

... probably 80% of new yorkers don't even know about these groups.

but it's essential in my opinion that they do! INFORMATION IS POWER!

there are so many groups that come to mind... (imho a

movement in itself!) , , , , , , , , , unac ( ) , , etc. etc. etc. but of course we should always be

adequately informed before we say we're in solidarity with a

particular organization or group. especially of course when the groups

principles and/or strategy doesn't jive with the majority of us. buts

let's find a way to streamline the process of decisions of solidarity

and mutual support. the time is right for this in my opinion. we


stand in solidarity with this PEOPLE's MOVEMENT.





On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:05 PM, Layan Fuleihan <> wrote:

> I agree that it should be presented to the GA.  I think a few points need to

> be clarified about their initial request:  they are not asking for

> 'political endorsement' but rather a statement of solidarity.  Considering

> how much our direct democracy and horizontal model is inspired by the

> Zapatista model, I think that would be a very respectful and important

> statement to make.  Also, if you read the attached link of the Sixth

> Declaration, it's pretty clear that they are not a violent organization

> (scroll down to the end, the sixth declaration of the EZLN summarizes this

> well).  Specifically concerning one of the previous suggestions to show

> support only for the oppressed indigenous communities:  those communities

> are Zapatista communities, so it wouldn't be any different.  OWS gets a lot

> of support from other movements, and reciprocating seems to be only fair.

>  In any case, let's hear about it in the GA so it can be discussed!  We

> should make sure to get this on the agenda.


> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:25 PM, <>

> wrote:


>> Mike is raising a more general concern.

>> The World Social Forum often barred parties in a reactionary way that

>> helped depoliticize the Forums.

>> That's not what Mike is suggestiing. By saying Occupy shouldn't support

>> parties, we're taking a progressive stance that facilitates involving and

>> welcoming ALL parties' members, or even their formal participation as

>> speakers (eventually reps on official bodies?) without endorsing any.

>> The Zapatistas have done some amazingly heroic things. They also have a

>> utopian "don't take state power" line which is a barrier to making

>> revolution. I certainly wouldn't want to endorse that -- nor would I ask

>> Occupy to endorse MY political (revolutionary socialist) party which has a

>> much better line on the question.




>> ---------- Original Message ----------

>> From: Sebastian Fernandez Giraldo <>

>> To:

>> Subject: Re: [september17discuss] URGENT PROPOSAL FROM MOVEMENT FOR


>> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:20:03 -0400


>> I don't think it's an informal hierarchy, it's just people voicing their

>> opinion on someone's idea. They are more than welcome to present it at the

>> GA. What Lili and and Robert worry about, I think, is that we share some

>> goals but we are still different movements. Formally voicing our support

>> would apply to all their actions not just the ones we agree with. The big

>> thing I see there'd be a problem with is that we are a non-violent movement.

>> If we really want to reach the 99% we have to keep in mind how pre-existing

>> organizations may alienate potential supporters.


>> Sebastian.


>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:38 PM, Winter Siroco <>

>> wrote:


>>> Actually one was missing:


>>> Greetings on Colonization Day,

>>> I begin by prayerfully remembering our free and independent ancestors,

>>> the Lenape and all the Original Nations and Peoples of this vast Turtle

>>> Island (Mother Earth), and of the entire Western Hemisphere from the Arctic

>>> Circle to Tierra del Fuego at the tip of South America.�


>>> As you �occupy Wall Street,� I ask you to reflect: You are on the island

>>> upon which our Indigenous ancestors lived and thrived for thousands and

>>> thousands of years. Please take a moment to recognize that we, the Original

>>> Nations, still exist here on Turtle Island. We have the right to exist as

>>> free and distinct nations with full�self-determination.

>>> What is the true source of our many grievances? It is the mentality and

>>> behavior of greed. The word �America� is the combination of two Latin

>>> words�ame�(a command form of �love!�) and�rica�(riches and wealth). The

>>> effects of an insatiable desire for and the pursuit of riches and wealth

>>> first afflicted our Indigenous nations and peoples, and now afflict all

>>> peoples. Clearly, we need to address and rectify the political economy of

>>> greed, and the destruction it has caused and continues to cause.


>>> Greed is an unsustainable value, but it is also an illness that is rooted

>>> in addiction. It is maintained in keeping with the slogan, �The more you eat

>>> (consume), the more you want.� The addict will stop at nothing to get a fix;

>>> he will sacrifice anyone and anything to feed his addiction. For this

>>> reason, an economy of greed has and will continue to sacrifice the health

>>> and well-being of women, children, men, and all living things on Mother

>>> Earth. As a great Anishinaabe leader has profoundly stated, �Their way of

>>> living is our way of dying.� It is rapidly becoming �the way of dying� for

>>> everyone.�

>>> Today, after centuries of invasion and predatory consumption

>>> (�devouring�) of our traditional lands, territories, and resources on Turtle

>>> Island and elsewhere, the waters of the rivers and streams that were once

>>> pure enough for our ancestors to drink from are now filthy and poisoned.

>>> Water is Life. The chemical contamination of Water, and, therefore, of Life

>>> itself, is emblematic of a way of life predicated upon patterns of greed

>>> that are destined to collapse.

>>> The suffering of human beings and the destructiveness to life on Mother

>>> Earth has been a direct consequence of colonization, domination,

>>> dehumanization, militarization and war. Unfortunately, these conceptions and

>>> behaviors have become the metaphorical bricks and mortar of the current

>>> unsustainable world order. They are expressed in a number of documents

>>> issued in the fifteenth century by the Holy See at Vatican Hill in Rome;

>>> these documents called for the domination of all non-Christian peoples

>>> throughout the world, and for the theft of all our lands and territories. To

>>> this day, the ideas found in those papal documents are woven into US Indian

>>> law and policy.


>>> Those Church documents unleashed claims to a right of conquest and

>>> domination in the name of a �right of Christian discovery.� The monarchies

>>> of Christendom used those documents to claim the territories of our nations

>>> in the Western hemisphere, simply because our territories were not yet in

>>> the possession of any Christian prince or dominator (�dominorum

>>> christianorum�). This paradigm of domination has been used to give

>>> governments and corporations virtually unlimited access to our traditional

>>> lands and territories. If approved, the�Keystone XL pipeline�will be but the

>>> latest example.


>>> Despite the destructive effects of more than five centuries of

>>> subjugation, as the Originally Free Nations and Peoples of Turtle Island, we

>>> still remember what it is to be truly free as exemplified by our ancestors.

>>> Our ancestors evolved life-ways and values that challenged European

>>> feudalism, medievalism, and lordship. Today, forces seem to be working

>>> toward neo-feudalism and neo-medievalism, with a long range plan for

>>> irreversible global domination in the name of �national security,� under the

>>> unblinking eye of the surveillance state.

>>> We have entered the �Brave New World� written about by a prescient mind a

>>> generation ago. Not only have we survived, but we now have the capability of

>>> expressing ourselves in the language of the Colonizers, and we are

>>> maintaining the message that our great leaders tried to convey to your

>>> ancestors:�Stop the patterns of destruction and greed before it is too

>>> late.�The Chernobyl-scale release of radiation at Fukushima, Japan is a

>>> clarion call.


>>> We must invert the key symbol of domination. Once inverted, the

>>> patriarchal symbol of �the dome of domination� becomes a bowl; when filled

>>> with water, the bowl is the symbol of the Sacred Feminine, as exemplified by

>>> the White Buffalo Calf Woman. She was the one who brought the Sacred Pipe to

>>> the Oglala Lakota Nation.�

>>> The Living Laws and Values of Turtle Island that the White Buffalo Calf

>>> Woman brought include: Honor and Respect; Compassion and Pity; Sharing and

>>> Caring (to carry the well-being of the People in one�s heart); Patience and

>>> Fortitude; Bravery and Courage; Humility; Seeking Wisdom and Seeking

>>> Understanding. In keeping with the White Buffalo Calf Woman�s teachings,

>>> Love and the Beautification of Life are healing values that need to replace

>>> the love of riches and wealth.

>>> Next May, 2012, a year of great transformation, we will be in New York at

>>> the United Nations as part of our work toward decolonization at the�UN

>>> Permanent Forum on Indigenous Issues. The theme of the Permanent Forum will

>>> be the destructive legacy and deadly impact of the Doctrines of Discovery

>>> and Domination on Indigenous Nations and Peoples and on Mother Earth. We ask

>>> for your support by renouncing the�Doctrine of Christian Discovery.

>>> Steven Newcomb, Shawnee/Lenape, is co-founder and co-director of

>>> the�Indigenous Law Institute, author of Pagans in the Promised Land:

>>> Decoding the Doctrine of Christian Discovery, and a columnist for the Indian

>>> Country Today Media Network.


>>> ************


>>> Embassy of Indigenous Peoples



>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Winter Siroco <>

>>> wrote:


>>>> Dough, go ahead and present it to the GA.�

>>>> There could be also a document of support of local Indigenous

>>>> organizations that visited us this Monday.Perhaps there is a way to provide

>>>> general support with their cause, without discussing their long documents at

>>>> the GA. ��

>>>> Also, let's not forget to publicize the endorsement of Voces de La

>>>> Frontera,�

>>>> AND the open letter from the Indigenous Law Institute�

>>>> Both included.

>>>> Which should be publicized at��and suggested for

>>>> publication at independent organizations such as��or

>>>> any other online presence with affinity to OWS.�

>>>> We will prevail past tomorrow.

>>>> Cesar


>>>> 0/12/2011


>>>> CONTACT: JOE SHANSKY�(414) 218-3331


>>>> Voces de la Frontera In Solidarity with "  Occupy Wall Street  "


>>>> On behalf of thousands of members across�Wisconsin, Voces de la Frontera

>>>> stands in solidarity with the "Occupy Wall Street" demonstrations on both

>>>> the national and local levels.�


>>>> Today we are experiencing devastating economic inequality, at a level

>>>> which is no longer sustainable for the vast majority of the country.�For far

>>>> too long, we've been the victims of an economic system which marginalizes

>>>> the poor and working classes, including immigrant workers who have to come

>>>> to the�US�as a result of free trade agreements which only favor

>>>> multi-national corporations.


>>>> The legacy of racism in the US means that racial and ethnic groups in

>>>> the US that have been historically marginalized have been especially hard

>>>> hit in the wake of the Great Recession.��


>>>> The recent financial crisis caused by Wall Street generated an

>>>> additional 8 million to the official unemployment rolls, and has had even

>>>> greater impact on African American and Latino unemployment rates.�


>>>> The housing market bubble of 2006 and the recession that followed from

>>>> 2007-2009 has reduced wealth of Latino households by 66% and 53% among

>>>> African-American households respectively, compared to white households whose

>>>> wealth also declined by 16%.


>>>> Banks such as Wells-Fargo have made record profits off of immigrant

>>>> detentions and imprisonment by investing heavily in the private prison

>>>> industry.�The private prison industry drafted the�Arizona�SB1070 racial

>>>> profiling law and has lobbied for similar laws in other states.��


>>>> This devious collaboration of politicians, banks, and private prison

>>>> companies has separated families, trampled on the civil rights of

>>>> individuals, weakened local economies that benefited from immigrant

>>>> communities, and created a climate of fear and demonization of Latinos and

>>>> immigrants in communities where AZ copycat bills were passed.��


>>>> Voces de la Frontera joins the demand for an end to this unconscionable

>>>> concentration of wealth by the top 1% and the scapegoating of immigrants as

>>>> a way to misdirect the legitimate anger of working people from those who are

>>>> truly responsible for the current crisis we face.


>>>> It is�only�democratic grassroots movements from below that have led to

>>>> transformational change in our nation's history.��


>>>> On October 15th in�Zeidler�Park�and beyond, Voces will stand with

>>>> Occupy�Milwaukee�and others who are also suffering in this economy, to

>>>> spread the message that Wall Street, banks, and multi-national corporations

>>>> must be held responsible for record poverty and unemployment.��


>>>> We demand no cuts or layoffs to the public sector, a massive job

>>>> creation program on the scale of the New Deal, humane immigration reform,

>>>> and saving families from foreclosures.�


>>>> �

>>>> On Oct 13, 2011, at 9:41 AM, Doug Singsen <> wrote:


>>>> We should write the statement of support. This is really important.


>>>> On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 12:32 AM,

>>>> <> wrote:


>>>>> Urgent Message from Movement for Justice in El Barrio, The Other

>>>>> Campaign

>>>>> New York


>>>>> To Members of the OWS General Assembly:


>>>>> Receive greetings and embraces of solidarity from the humble and simple

>>>>> migrant community of El Barrio, NYC:


>>>>> We are Movement for Justice in El Barrio � an organization of

>>>>> immigrants

>>>>> that fights for dignity and against neoliberal displacement. We fight

>>>>> for

>>>>> the liberation of every marginalized group, such as immigrants, people

>>>>> of

>>>>> color, women, lesbians, gays, transgender people, and all the poor of

>>>>> the

>>>>> world. We are part of the Zapatista-initated The Other Campaign.


>>>>> Last Sunday, beneath the red sculpture that marks the entrance to

>>>>> "Liberty

>>>>> Plaza", we shared our Declaration in Support of Occupied Wall St. As

>>>>> dusk

>>>>> came upon us, our words found resonance in the hearts of people who,

>>>>> like

>>>>> us, seek a world of dignity.


>>>>> In addition to our Declaration, we shared with you a communiqu�ritten

>>>>> 15

>>>>> years ago by the Zapatista National Liberation Army (EZLN) of Mexico �

>>>>> which is for many of us our homeland. In this communiqu�the Zapatistas

>>>>> pay homage to all the women who fight for justice in the world.


>>>>> For nearly three decades, the Zapatistas have waged a tireless and

>>>>> profound struggle to build, as they say, �un mundo d� quepan todos los

>>>>> mundos�: A world in which all worlds fit. Day after day, they continue

>>>>> building this world from below and to the left� outside of and against

>>>>> political parties and the capitalist system. Their struggle is a kind

>>>>> of

>>>>> poetry that has touched the hearts of dignified people from around the

>>>>> world. Their vision and analysis of the world is perhaps best

>>>>> articulated

>>>>> in the document, to which we adhere as an organization, called: La

>>>>> Sexta

>>>>> Declaraci�e La Selva Lacandona (English version available here:

>>>>> We

>>>>> believe strongly that the Zapatista struggle, with its form,

>>>>> principles,

>>>>> and aims, has shaped profoundly the resistance that is taking place on

>>>>> Wall Street today.


>>>>> As you know, in the world in which we live, such a struggle is neither

>>>>> welcomed nor celebrated, but instead: condemned, attacked, beaten,

>>>>> imprisoned, repressed, silenced, raped, tortured, executed, distorted,

>>>>> ignored.


>>>>> At present, the EZLN support communities of San Marcos Avil�and San

>>>>> Patricio in Chiapas, Mexico, are currently facing severe forms of

>>>>> violence, harassment, and displacement from their ancestral lands. The

>>>>> indigenous peoples who reside in these two communities have become the

>>>>> targets of such violence because they, brazenly, have exercised their

>>>>> autonomy and right to self-determination as indigenous peoples, and

>>>>> have,

>>>>> to that end, developed just systems of self-governance and alternative

>>>>> community institutions, such as schools, cooperative farms and health

>>>>> clinics, that reflect and support indigenous worldviews and culture.

>>>>> They

>>>>> are under attack, in sum, for living a life of dignity and for

>>>>> demanding

>>>>> that everyone be able to do so.


>>>>> For this reason, and given the gravity of the situation, we write to

>>>>> you

>>>>> to solicit your support for our humble proposal: We propose that at

>>>>> this

>>>>> upcoming Wednesday's General Assembly meeting, the OWS General Assembly

>>>>> consider, and ultimately endorse, a statement or resolution of support

>>>>> for

>>>>> the Zapatista communities of San Miguel Avil�and San Patricio.

>>>>> Representatives from our organization will be present to discuss the

>>>>> details of the situation and proposal.


>>>>> In light of the demanding workloads of our members, we ask that you

>>>>> please

>>>>> respond to us as soon as possible, no later than this Friday, if you

>>>>> accept our proposal at


>>>>> With love and solidarity,


>>>>> From El Barrio, NYC,


>>>>> Movement for Justice in El Barrio, The Other Campaign New York