From:   jemcgloin@verizon.net
Sent time:   Saturday, October 15, 2011 11:52:10 PM
To:   september17@googlegroups.com
Subject:   Re: Re: [september17discuss] Demands committee and those who want no demands bridging the gap
 

Uh oh,  I think I created a monster, lol.  
 
 
On 10/15/11, Snafu<snafu@thething.it> wrote:
Jem, it is highly possible that this whole thing of somebody writing a
constitution is a simple misunderstanding. Somebody wrote on the list
that somebody was doing research about various constitutions, which does
not mean that anybody is attempting to write one.

Yet it would be interesting to begin thinking about the movement as a
constituent process--i.e. the beginning of a new model of social
organization.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jemcgloin <jemcgloin@verizon.net>
> To: september17 <september17@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 9:03 pm
> Subject: Re: Re: [september17discuss] Demands committee and those who
> want no demands bridging the gap
>
> I am actually alarmed to find out we are making a constitution. It
> seems extremely premature. I am alarmed that the demands committees
> are extremely hard to find and that the constitution committee also
> seems to be operating in the dark.
>
>
>
>
> On 10/11/11, Snafu&lt;snafu@thething.it&gt; wrote:It's interesting
> that the Demands Committee creates so much alarm
> whereas the Constitution Committee does not even raise an eyebrow.
> Constitution is strategic, demands are tactical.
>
> Demands do not define a movement, a constitution does.
>
> On 10/11/11 12:45 PM, Marisa Holmes wrote:
> &gt; I agree with Will. We cannot represent the movement as a whole.
> &gt; Also, a demands committee would not represent the NY occupation.
> &gt; Any political statements must go through the GA process.
> &gt; Personally, I'm against having demands at all.
> &gt; We've already adopted principles of solidarity and a declaration.
> &gt; We know what we're about at the NYC GA without "demands"
> &gt;
> &gt; Marisa
> &gt;
> &gt;
> &gt; On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 12:41 PM,&lt;guindave@aol.com&gt; wrote:
> &gt;&gt; I'm not sure who is writting it I think thats what they are
> doing right ?
> &gt;&gt; writting somthing like it ?
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----
> &gt;&gt; From: Will Gauss&lt;willgauss@gmail.com&gt;
> &gt;&gt; To: september17&lt;september17@googlegroups.com&gt;
> &gt;&gt; Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 11:54 am
> &gt;&gt; Subject: Re: [september17discuss] Demands committee and those
> who want no
> &gt;&gt; demands bridging the gap
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; We are a consensus based group. If a decision is made which
> does not
> &gt;&gt; include us, I just won't recognize it.
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; Sent from my iPhone
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt; On Oct 11, 2011, at 11:31 AM, David
> DeGraw&lt;David@AmpedStatus.com&gt; wrote:
> &gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt; this mysterious "demands committee" needs to have total
> transparency.
> &gt;&gt; if demands come out of left field there will be a revolt
> within the revolt.
> &gt;&gt; we are already working hard to deflect all sorts of wacky
> conspiracy
> &gt;&gt; theories.
> &gt;&gt;&gt; On 10/11/2011 11:16 AM, guindave@aol.com wrote:
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; and yes it worries me for the same reason but what to
> do now ?
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: guindave&lt;guindave@aol.com&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: september17&lt;september17@googlegroups.com&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 11:15 am
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: RE: [september17discuss] Demands committee
> and those who
> &gt;&gt; want no demands bridging the gap
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; They where already there
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: Jackie DiSalvo&lt;jdisalvo@nyc.rr.com&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: september17&lt;september17@googlegroups.com&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Tue, Oct 11, 2011 7:33 am
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: RE: [september17discuss] Demands committee
> and those who
> &gt;&gt; want
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; no demands bridging the gap
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Don't have reporters; they will slant coverage to
> suit their
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; publication's
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; agenda.
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; -----Original Message-----
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; From: september17@googlegroups.com
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; [mailto:september17@googlegroups.com] On
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Behalf Of guindave@aol.com
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Sent: Monday, October 10, 2011 10:47 PM
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; To: september17@googlegroups.com
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Subject: [september17discuss] Demands committee and
> those who want no
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; demands bridging the gap
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I was at the demands committee and tonight (as some
> one who myself
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; would like something like a demand (perhaps not in
> those words). They
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; where completely unaware that many at the GA don't
> want demands I
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; would urge pretty much every one who is interested
> for and against
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; demands to come to there next meeting Sunday at 2 but
> with and open
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; mind towards perhaps trying to bridge the gap between
> those who do
> &gt;&gt; and
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; don't want this and those who are writing the what is
> it a
> &gt;&gt; constitution
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; ? and those who do to find middle ground. Also there
> where some
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; reporters there do other working groups have
> reporters at them ?
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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> &gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;
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