From:   Andy Anderson <>
Sent time:   Sunday, October 16, 2011 9:42:15 PM
Subject:   Re: [september17discuss] A Letter From One of Your Children-Occupy Indianapolis

We are currently reaching out, but being in the midwest they seem cautious with us. The UAW is picketing the city county building tomorrow night and we will be there. But as individuals, not occupyers, as they are the ones making the Koolaid claim, The trade unions want to see an occupation and a message before they will commit, but we are trying to explain to them, that is putting the cart in front of the horse. We want the union members, not necessarily the people running them, as the reps have pretty much given in to the city and the corporations here in the guise of keeping us working. But we realize we need all the help we can get, so we are keeping the dialog open. When the UAW asked exactly what our demands were on Saturday, one of us told him, he could give him a 30 second sound bite, so he said, great what is it?. The man said, social justice, no more, no less. And the union rep looked dejected and said, I can't take that to anyone. I heard the conversation. I'm in a trade union, and the conversation was between UAW members. But I liked our answer. We just have to come to an understanding and we will keep working the outreach. We really haven't had much protesting since our state reps left the state last spring,which didn't change anything. We are trying to outreach them as well, but we don't allow politicians to the mike unless they remove their pins first, so they don't know what use we are to them. Once we occupy by the homeless, we hope to get the public's attention and then the unions as well as some not for profits. But we don't want to have that conversation until we are setteled, so we aren't prevented from occupying. We want to engage the Hispanic community, but we don't have anyone who speaks Spanish fluently, we aren't having anyone from them come out. About all the other communities are represented. We are trying to outreach anyone from the Civil Rights Movement, but so far they don't seem interested here.But they do protest often.We just don't have an in on where and when. We haven't given up on anyone though. We will get the message out. We just have to keep at it. We will take any numbers for national groups that may have local offices though.

On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 10:54 PM, Doug Singsen <> wrote:
Are there other activist or community groups in the city or ongoing struggles that you can reach out to to support you, and vice versa? If there are other protests scheduled in Indianapolis, go to them with flyers for the occupation, make contact with the organizers, and invite them to visit the occupation. Go to other groups' meetings, introduce yourself, hand out flyers, ask how the occupation can support them. Encourage any groups that are organizing protests to begin or end their protest at the occupation. Reach out to college students.


On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 10:10 PM, Andy Anderson <> wrote:
Thank you for your help. Thank you for your encouragement. You may not be the leader, but you are definetly leading the way. And you did force the birth of this movement we all felt was coming, but you gave it life. For that we will all be thankful. Some of us are thankful now. We will have tons of specific questions, the first, is this the proper place to ask them? We are currently reorganizing. Our original web team went way overboard on the websites and has created a maze some people are having problems navigating through. Our lawyers have come back from their convention fired up and ready to help. We will be sitting down with them next week.Our new "tent city" commitee is working at basically starting over at all the areas, logistics, i.t., security, legal, outreach, et. al. We are going forward and learning from what is going on now at the occupation of the capitol. We hope to have a UPS box, a credit union account, and a delivery address by the end of the week.The unions are circling, but won't come out and help as yet, but they want demands. statements, and goals from us to make sure we aren't into drinking KoolAid. We will also have a definite date for phase two. We are running to catch up, but we do now have direction and purpose and we are building teams of great individuals capable of bring so much to the group.
                                                                                      Thanks again and Peace,
                                                                                               Occupy Indianapolis WE ARE THE 99%
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 1:50 AM, <> wrote:
To OWS:  Is it possible that we at OWS NYC can redirect some of our incoming supplies to Indianapolis if we have surplus.  Maybe we can ask some of our supporters to send them some pizza also.  :)

To OP:  Your basic strategy sounds very good to me.  Mostly what we have to offer you is encouragement.  As a movement the "occupies" are all already very successful, though we have a long way to go.  And my personal advice is to be impatient with the 1%, but very patient with each other and the process.  Consensus is like a river, very slow, but very powerful.  Let your members exercise their creativity.  I am always shocked at how resourceful my colleagues are, and how their craziest ideas are often turn out to be great ones.  Make sure to constantly put out messages about what you are doing and what you need.  And while I am waxing philosophical, Bruce Lee said, "Be like water."  Follow the path of least resistance, but always flow toward your objective.  Sun Tzu said, the greatest general captures the enemy army whole, without fighting.
Also try to be specific about what kinds of things and advice you need. 
And the last thing, stop calling us "leader"  ;)   We are all the leader.
On 10/15/11, Andy Anderson<> wrote:
Dear Parent
We are out there and I am sure you have noticed. We are those who
originally yearned to be with you, but realized the need to make this
global so we stayed home and built our own groups in your likeness.
But some of us are getting the s*** kicked out of us and some of us
are losing the message and some of us are succeeding beyond our
original expectations, but most of us are just working to make this
work day to day. We are your children and we look to you for support,
encouragement, and guidance. For our part you have been there. And you
have been a great help to date. But we still need more and although we
realize that is a burden you probably hesitate to lift, we ask you
anyway. That being said Occupy Indianapolis would greatly appreciate
any assistance you can give us.

We are currently occupying the Indiana State Capitol Building, but
with no tents and no sleeping. We have good relations with the police
and the media, but only superficially. Nobody really knows what to
expect and the media is focusing on our cleanliness and politeness.But
we are planning an occupation of the area near our river where the
city has pushed the homeless to, so they are out of sight for the
Super Bowl. We are planning an occupation along the lines of Boston,
in operation, but with a hospital, cafeteria, and outreach for the
homeless. It just so happens the land we are planning to occupy is
owned by Eli Lilly, who we are sure agreed with the mayor in getting
the "riff raff" out of sight for those coming to our fine city. We are
hoping to bring the media into this and use them to garner public
support both for the homeless and ourselves and thus maintain our
occupation. They are the 99% percent as well. We are also wanting to
extend a hand to the Hispanic Community that until recently did not
really have a voice. This has all been approved by the GA, But it is
the committee's job to make this happen and winter is coming fast.

The hospital group is trying to pull in volunteers from the local
hospitals to do shifts. But we are having problems with medical
supplies. The area we are planning to occupy is sloped to the river,
so we will have to dig shelves into the side of the incline to make
areas for tents. The area is wooded and off the beaten track so we are
looking at ways to bring in people and supplies in large quantities.
We are looking to unions for labor and manpower to reshape the area.
We have been warned by the trade unions to keep the AFL-CIO at arms
reach until we are large enough to keep them in their place. To make
this as quick as possible, we are brainstorming. But the differnce
between brainstorming and action seems quite large right now. So what
I am asking for is any suggestions, comments, warnings,
encouragements, ect. that you can lend us. Also can you create a
library of "how to" workshops like the GA orientation that was on
livestream last night,to help facilitate training? Another concern was
as our parent, can you organize a group meeting between the various
occupy groups so we can compare notes and concerns amoung all the
groups? Maybe a GA meeting along the lines that Anonymous came up with
for governing, a kind of electronic consensus tool. Lastly, for those
looking in the future, can we come up with a form of communication
that cannot be cut, should the powers that be decide they are tired of
playing and take the internet and cell phones away. We don't see this
as immediate, but someday our successes may make this necessary.Thank
you all again for starting this, encouraging us, and leading us.


Occupy Indianapolis WE ARE THE 99%